Friday, January 2, 2009

Gaza -Zionism and the Ongoing Muslim Holocaust.

On December 27th, Israel began bombarding the Gaza strip with missile air attacks, wiping out civilians without regard, blasting densely populated areas near schools in their supposed pursuit of Hamas leaders and retaliation for rocket fire. The entire middle east is up in arms because of the attacks, which have left 421 Palestinians dead (as of Friday, January 2nd), and thousands more injured so far. The Isreali army says that their campaign of state-sponsored terrorism is a response to smaller rockets that have been fired by Palestinian militants from Gaza. So far in the fighting, less than a dozen Israelis have died from Palestinian rockets. I do not mean to discount the value of life by saying, "Less than a dozen", but that is the comparison; more than 30 Palestinians dead for every 1 Israeli. There is no honor, or courage in this sort of overwhelming force.

It absolutely amazes me that Zionists (both Jew and Christian) can possibly imagine that they are sitting under the blessing of God when they spill the blood of innocent civilians so eagerly, and defiantly claim to be taking the high road while doing it. Jeremiah 6: 13-15a describes this exact mentality:
“From the least to the greatest their lives are ruled by greed. From prophets to priests, they are all frauds. They offer superficial treatments for my people’s mortal wound. They give assurances of peace when there is no peace. Are they ashamed of their disgusting actions? Not at all—they don’t even know how to blush!"
People who think this way (and there are plenty of them) are so drunk with the wine of Babylon (That is, filled with a self-appointed sense of piety) that they have lost their sense of dignity, and conscience. They are acting, before God and all the world, like the spiritual equivalent of angry, drunken, violent jerks: and they see absolutely nothing wrong with their abusive behavior. But unlike normal drunks, they aren't just embarrassing and/or hurting themselves. In the case of this past week, hundreds of people have died, some of them schoolchildren; thousands have been wounded; power is lost to hospitals in Gaza, food supplies have been cut off, nobody knows when those crucial supply lines will be reconnected.

The atrocity of life in that narrow strip of land right now is beyond the scope of most people's comprehension. And so rather than force ourselves to go through the painful process of learning how to wrap our minds around it, we put it out of our heads. We rationalize to ourselves, "It can't be that bad." We thank God that we aren't Muslim (unless you are, in which case you probably thank Allah that you are, because the one true God is merciful to all who are oppressed, and fair in judging both the righteous, and the unrighteous).

In the 1940's, a lot of people around the world were hearing rumors of terrible mistreatment, demonization, and persecution of the Jews under Adolf Hitler. There were stories from those who escaped the Reich from time to time. Most would shake their heads and think about how terrible it was that the Jews were being singled out that way, and then concentrate on other matters of the war, or the world, or their own lives. People didn't allow themselves to believe that a holocaust actually existed until after it stopped, when they saw the evidence of it first hand. There was a blind spot that covered the eyes of the world 65 years ago. The same thing is happening right now in the world. Only this time some Jews are the attackers, and not the victims. The alliance between the United States and Israel has rendered the peacekeeping power of the United Nations obsolete. And the target of their war machine is Islam.

Think about it in these terms: There are three Monotheistic faiths that all claim Abraham as their father. The first Antichrist was Nero, who persecuted the Christians; the second Antichrist was Hitler, who persecuted the Jews; Our current Antichrist is Bush, who persecutes Muslims.

I believe that the Iraq war is not so much a terrible failure as it is a twisted, mislabled extermination project against the people of Iraq. This is also the motive behind the so-called "Global War On Terrorism". There is a massive, and totally inhumane campaign of American Empirical expansion (supported by Israel) which seeks to subdue and trample the entire Eurasian area, reforming them in an American image. It is not democracy that we wish to spread throughout that region, for Hamas is a democratically elected ruling party, and we are not coming to their assistance. We also didn't defend Lebanon from being riddled with advanced Israeli missles a couple of years ago, and they are another democracy. In fact, America's best friends in the region are Israel, and Saudi Arabia. Both nations are serious violators of the basic human rights and liberties that our constitution swears to defend and uphold...Our proud, patriotic, pro-democracy self image is a complete farce.

Friends, we must all pray that we never lose our sensitivity to God's impartial eye. He is a fair judge, who does not show any favoritism, but judges each of us based on our hearts and our actions. All those who repent must first come to terms with this fair, all seeing, all knowing power of God; but the principal can be easy to forget. That is exactly what's happened to the religious/political establishment of our time, in America and Israel. In the immediate aftermath of 9-11, the wounds of our national trauma were bandaged with bumper stickers that said "God Bless America". We are going boldly forth into the world, torturing, poisoning, exterminating both enemies and innocents along the way, and we believe that God is going to bless us...God will deliver the weak from their oppressors. He sees through the boastful, self-righteous posturing that has been used as a blanket to cover serious, ongoing crimes against humanity. God is very near to us, and near to them. This will not continue indefinitely. Vengeance will be his. But never forget that there is a remnant that belongs to the Lord in every Nation (including Israel). Those in Christ have brothers and sisters everywhere. God will sort them out. One of my favorite statements of Paul is, "Be not deceived, God will not be mocked: every person will reap what they sew".

Jeremiah 7:1-15

The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD: "Stand in the gate of the LORD’s house, and proclaim there this word, and say, Hear the word of the LORD, all you men of Judah who enter these gates to worship the LORD. Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Amend your ways and your deeds, and I will let you dwell in this place. Do not trust in these deceptive words: 'This is the temple of the LORD, the temple of the LORD, the temple of the LORD.'

"For if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly execute justice one with another, if you do not oppress the sojourner, the fatherless, or the widow, or shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not go after other gods to your own harm, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave of old to your fathers forever.

"Behold, you trust in deceptive words to no avail. Will you steal, murder, commit adultery, swear falsely, make offerings to Baal, and go after other gods that you have not known, and then come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, 'We are delivered!'—only to go on doing all these abominations? Has this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? You know, I too am watching, declares the LORD.

Go now to my place that was in Shiloh, where I made my name dwell at first, and see what I did to it because of the evil of my people Israel. And now, because you have done all these things, declares the LORD, and when I spoke to you persistently you did not listen, and when I called you, you did not answer, therefore I will do to the house that is called by my name, and in which you trust, and to the place that I gave to you and to your fathers, as I did to Shiloh. And I will cast you out of my sight, as I cast out all your kinsmen, all the offspring of Ephraim.

150 comments:

faithful forever said...

In light of Sandra's recent sadness and the unbearable sadness in the Gaza, my heart has been heavy, for what we know is the tip of the iceburg, and yet our Lord knows it ALL and sees all. Surely the time must grows short.

Then I come and read His words given to Jeremiah and posted here by our young brother, and I am comforted by knowing that our Lord is watching. And His plan is perfect.

Prayers and love to all who suffer in this world but we rejoice for it is the meek who will inherit the world. All praise and glory to God. Our redeemer who lives forever and ever.

Beautiful post again young brother, and your absence was worth the wait. You were missed immensely.

faithful forever said...

From the following article:

Artillery begins firing
Israeli artillery joined the battle for the first time earlier on Saturday. Artillery fire is less accurate than attacks from the air using precision-guided munitions, raising the possibility of a higher number of civilian casualties.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28404637/?GT1=43001

There are no words; only tears.

The hypocrisy of calling Hamas/Palestine's actions an 'act of terror' reveals the true spirit behind the evil grin, and waits a whole week to say it. One big stamp of approval for death and destruction. Several Arab nation leaders are meeting in NYC this weekend to discuss a resolution complete with wining and dining while more blood is shed. They call evil good, and war peace.

Our Lord is in control and He reigns.

faithful forever said...

My mistake; Libya is the only Arab nation to attend the council, and the US (Bush) blocked approval of a UN Security Council statement calling for an immediate cease-fire.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28484148/

The decider has said that Hamas has to quit firing first. Over 400 Palestinians have been killed and as of yesterday, four Israelis from rockets since this escalated eight days ago. Essentially Bush is saying the oppressed need to quit fighting back. There is a huge message in that statement.

Indonesia has being rocked today with two powerful earthquakes, and Yellowstone is rumbling again as well.

Blessings and prayers for His strength and His peace to all.

young brother said...

Hi Forever Faithful. I agree that there is a huge message in that statement; it's kind of a twisted version of "turn the other cheek".

Yesterday afternoon, I was trying to find one news channel that was covering Gaza, right at the time that they were getting ready for the ground invasion...no luck. This is a very controlled, specifically timed and deliberate operation. Murderous plots like this will be done away with soon.

God help us all.

Kelly said...

Pretty fascinating post about a weighty and heartbreaking conflict going on right now.

I was in Times Square yesterday and happened to run into the demonstrations going on. A bunch of people were pulling out their cameras to photograph it and unfortunately, I didn't have my pro on me, or it would have been an interesting photo.

What stood out to me the most: a bunch of handwritten signs reading, "Israelis against Zionism" and things of that nature. It was quite powerful.

There were Hasidic Jews and people of all races and backgrounds demonstrating against the attacks going on right now. Many seemed to simply value "life" and reject conflict.

Wanted to stop in and say hello, such horrible news being reported each and every day...it's hard to watch. I hope you all are well and had a nice holiday...though our entry into the New Year is seeming to prove that nothing is "new" in a world where personal gain and pure hatred determine the course of so many lives.

I just try and keep looking up; to dwell on the "positive" wherever possible.

faithful forever said...

Hey there right back at you my young brother. I actually heard it in the car on the radio, and then they went on the a weather report without missing a beat.

I agree the reporting is scarce. I have taken to turning on Faux News to read the ticker tape. That's pretty desperate!

If the elite control both sides as they usually do, the Palestinian people stand no chance. I know the anger and sorrow that arises in me watching this horror, and the only thing that comforts is knowing that God knows and sees all and He is infinite justice.

Israel gave a brief warning yesterday to flee and gave residents 15 minutes to get out. I wondered if the border was even opened for them to get out. So shameful. We claim there is no humanitarian crisis that needs to be dealt with...disgusting, horrifying and downright evil. Since Bush finally spoke about the carnage, he is showing the world who is in charge and now calling the shots.

It is going to be a very interesting year...with many changes.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Love and His peace to all.

PursuingTruth said...

Excellent and needed post. They want this to escalate to drag in Iran and Syria. Also the timing is interesting,why now?. Remember "Beware of those that say they are Jews and are not" Rv:2:9 & Rv.3:9

Anonymous said...

I am becoming convinced that Russia is up to something and I am guessing based on these:

09:01 Abkhazia is not involved in Sunday attack on Georgian village - official

10:28 Georgia covertly redeploys troops to Abkhaz-Georgian border - official

14:06 Georgia accuses Abkhazia, S. Ossetia of provocations.

And Ukraine-Russia relationships are getting even much more complicated than ever because:

Gazprom announces gas price of $450 per 1,000 cubic meters for Ukrainein Jan ....(Nearly doubled)

Keep the faith,
Ali.

Dave Wilcox said...

I think this passage from 2 Ezra is appropriate for our times. I think we may be very close:

4Ezra.13
[1] And it came to pass after seven days, I dreamed a dream by night:
[2] And, lo, there arose a wind from the sea, that it moved all the waves thereof.
[3] And I beheld, and, lo, that man waxed strong with the thousands of heaven: and when he turned his countenance to look, all the things trembled that were seen under him.
[4] And whensoever the voice went out of his mouth, all they burned that heard his voice, like as the earth faileth when it feeleth the fire.
[5] And after this I beheld, and, lo, there was gathered together a multitude of men, out of number, from the four winds of the heaven, to subdue the man that came out of the sea
[6] But I beheld, and, lo, he had graved himself a great mountain, and flew up upon it.
[7] But I would have seen the region or place whereout the hill was graven, and I could not.
[8] And after this I beheld, and, lo, all they which were gathered together to subdue him were sore afraid, and yet durst fight.
[9] And, lo, as he saw the violence of the multitude that came, he neither lifted up his hand, nor held sword, nor any instrument of war:
[10] But only I saw that he sent out of his mouth as it had been a blast of fire, and out of his lips a flaming breath, and out of his tongue he cast out sparks and tempests.
[11] And they were all mixed together; the blast of fire, the flaming breath, and the great tempest; and fell with violence upon the multitude which was prepared to fight, and burned them up every one, so that upon a sudden of an innumerable multitude nothing was to be perceived, but only dust and smell of smoke: when I saw this I was afraid.
[12] Afterward saw I the same man come down from the mountain, and call unto him another peaceable Multitude.
[13] And there came much people unto him, whereof some were glad, some were sorry, and some of them were bound, and other some brought of them that were offered: then was I sick through great fear, and I awaked, and said,
[14] Thou hast shewed thy servant these wonders from the beginning, and hast counted me worthy that thou shouldest receive my prayer:
[15] Shew me now yet the interpretation of this dream.
[16] For as I conceive in mine understanding, woe unto them that shall be left in those days and much more woe unto them that are not left behind!
[17] For they that were not left were in heaviness.
[18] Now understand I the things that are laid up in the latter days, which shall happen unto them, and to those that are left behind.
[19] Therefore are they come into great perils and many necessities, like as these dreams declare.
[20] Yet is it easier for him that is in danger to come into these things, than to pass away as a cloud out of the world, and not to see the things that happen in the last days. And he answered unto me, and said,
[21] The interpretation of the vision shall I shew thee, and I will open unto thee the thing that thou hast required.
[22] Whereas thou hast spoken of them that are left behind, this is the interpretation:
[23] He that shall endure the peril in that time hath kept himself: they that be fallen into danger are such as have works, and faith toward the Almighty.
[24] Know this therefore, that they which be left behind are more blessed than they that be dead.
[25] This is the meaning of the vision: Whereas thou sawest a man coming up from the midst of the sea:
[26] The same is he whom God the Highest hath kept a great season, which by his own self shall deliver his creature: and he shall order them that are left behind.
[27] And whereas thou sawest, that out of his mouth there came as a blast of wind, and fire, and storm;
[28] And that he held neither sword, nor any instrument of war, but that the rushing in of him destroyed the whole multitude that came to subdue him; this is the interpretation:
[29] Behold, the days come, when the most High will begin to deliver them that are upon the earth.
[30] And he shall come to the astonishment of them that dwell on the earth.
[31] And one shall undertake to fight against another, one city against another, one place against another, one people against another, and one realm against another.
[32] And the time shall be when these things shall come to pass, and the signs shall happen which I shewed thee before, and then shall my Son be declared, whom thou sawest as a man ascending.
[33] And when all the people hear his voice, every man shall in their own land leave the battle they have one against another.
[34] And an innumerable multitude shall be gathered together, as thou sawest them, willing to come, and to overcome him by fighting.
[35] But he shall stand upon the top of the mount Sion.
[36] And Sion shall come, and shall be shewed to all men, being prepared and builded, like as thou sawest the hill graven without hands.
[37] And this my Son shall rebuke the wicked inventions of those nations, which for their wicked life are fallen into the tempest;
[38] And shall lay before them their evil thoughts, and the torments wherewith they shall begin to be tormented, which are like unto a flame: and he shall destroy them without labour by the law which is like unto me.
[39] And whereas thou sawest that he gathered another peaceable multitude unto him;
[40] Those are the ten tribes, which were carried away prisoners out of their own land in the time of Osea the king, whom Salmanasar the king of Assyria led away captive, and he carried them over the waters, and so came they into another land.
[41] But they took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
[42] That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
[43] And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
[44] For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
[45] For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
[46] Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
[47] The Highest shall stay the springs of the stream again, that they may go through: therefore sawest thou the multitude with peace.
[48] But those that be left behind of thy people are they that are found within my borders.
[49] Now when he destroyeth the multitude of the nations that are gathered together, he shall defend his people that remain.
[50] And then shall he shew them great wonders.
[51] Then said I, O Lord that bearest rule, shew me this: Wherefore have I seen the man coming up from the midst of the sea?
[52] And he said unto me, Like as thou canst neither seek out nor know the things that are in the deep of the sea: even so can no man upon earth see my Son, or those that be with him, but in the day time.
[53] This is the interpretation of the dream which thou sawest, and whereby thou only art here lightened.
[54] For thou hast forsaken thine own way, and applied thy diligence unto my law, and sought it.
[55] Thy life hast thou ordered in wisdom, and hast called understanding thy mother.
[56] And therefore have I shewed thee the treasures of the Highest: after other three days I will speak other things unto thee, and declare unto thee mighty and wondrous things.
[57] Then went I forth into the field, giving praise and thanks greatly unto the most High because of his wonders which he did in time;
[58] And because he governeth the same, and such things as fall in their seasons: and there I sat three days.

Anonymous said...

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2007/3/1/1_214595_1_5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://sweetness-light.com/archive/al-jazeera-english-news&usg=__TB_9cs8qlM6loCMd2AKDmZj8p34=&h=206&w=309&sz=30&hl=en&start=37&tbnid=FJsupZo2BbiksM:&tbnh=78&tbnw=117&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGaza%2BStrip%2B%252B%2Bsewage%26start%3D20%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

I have spoken to a number of Palestinians about why they stay in Palestine. Most say it is because it is their home.

Nevertheless, I have to wonder at what point it no longer becomes worth it to stay? The Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated places on earth. There are few jobs. The Israelis block the borders. The quality of life sucks.

I think if I were a Palestinian I would want to get out. If the Israelis wanted the land so damned bad, they'd be welcome to the sewage running in the streets.

I would want to literally get away from this shithole.

There already exists a large Palestinian diaspora. The Zionists want the Palestinians to simply disappear. Nevertheless, where ever there is one single Palestinian left standing on this earth, the Zionists can not escape from the consequences of their deeds.

Once the Israelis have solved their Palestinian Question, they will have land to settle upon. Who will they settle on this land? Ethiopian Jews, Russian Jews, the new minorities.

And the land will spit them out, for it will not be as in former days when the desert bloomed.

They have bulldozed the olive grove and set up a strip mall. The desert will follow.

Dave Wilcox said...

Interesting perspective from Neturei Karta:

http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Speeches/20081227.cfm

Dave Wilcox said...

Paul Craig Roberts. He reminds us of what an honest conservative used to look like before the Neo-Cons took over

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts01022009.html

Dave Wilcox said...

Love this guy...

http://www.russiatoday.com/guests/video/1948

faithful forever said...

Great links nathandave, especially the first one which distinguishes Judaism from Zionism. We can understand better the warning of the Lord as Pursuing Truth points out, of those who say they are Jews and are not. ~They~ have the whole world in their grip but the Lord knows what they are going to do before they do it.

Nothing comforts like the word of the Lord and thanks for the posting from Ezra; He is with us.

George Galloway rocks! I love to hear the truth being spoken plainly and passionately.

Balor, how can we judge what is right for one man according to what we would do or not do. Where do you go when you have nowhere else to go and no money to get there. It goes without saying that life would be better somewhere else for everyone of them right now. But they are there right now; being trapped and hunted. If they are guilty of being victims by their own circumstance, then we all are.

Vengence is mine, says the Lord.

Love to all.

Anonymous said...

In my opinion the situation in Gaza is just a prelude to the big one. And I don't think it will just return to normal whatever effort is being made. I can't just believe that there is a quick fix for a problem that has been plagueing the region for thousands of years. Jesus is the only answer.

http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topics/the-other-side-of-the-story

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

Anonymous said...

Hey Everyone,

Hope everyone is doing well in this interesting times. I am going to keep low because I had witnessed the ongoing spray today that is on the atmosphere. I kid you not and it is in weaves. Anyone else have witnessed it? I know they were doing it for a while even when I saw that smoke spray in the sky.

I have found this movie online that will discuss about the spray and solutions. 2009 is going to be very interesting.

Please be prepared don't fear, get as much seeds (non gmo organic) as possible, get rid of plastics in any jars as much as possible and ask friends to lend some glasses, jars, for foods. Transponders have to go and find some people who are interested and know how to convert your engine vehicle to H20. Forget the Hybrids. I hope this helps

faithful forever said...

Amen, Annon. Jesus is the only answer. He always has been and I pray that something good can come out of this mess by more people turning to Him.

They have made it perfectly clear that they have no intention of stopping it with words like 'fighting to the bitter end' and now Bush said today that it is a 'noble cause' to want a ceasefire, but more or less it is not going to happen - because they don't want it to happen. They hypocritically claim that a ceasefire could not guarantee the rockets being fired by Hamas. Everything is happening for a reason.

Those pictures from your link broke my heart into a million pieces what I seen (and it was only a few), but you always bring joy. Thanks for the blessings you bring, Annon, and I know how much you are suffering also, and I just have to say how much you mean to me and I love you so much. The spiritual connection always astounds me. This is our God. Imagine what He has in store for us.

Prophecy is being fulfilled; it has all been written and we are blessed to be able to discern the time. Even when it does not feel like it or seem like it is a blessing, and we praise our Heavenly Father for not blinding us. Imagine the hopelessness in the blindness...we have all hope in His promises and He will not abandon those who are faithful to Him.

God works all things for the good whether we understand His plan or not. I was praying the other day about the death and destruction and how hard it is to witness even from afar (much less first hand if and when it comes), and I started to feel joy at the thought of watching the enemy be made into His footstool. This felt wrong in a way and I am still conflicted about it, but after so much suffering and death and pain and agony, brutality and oppression, watching plagues be poured out on those to whom our God deems, well, the righteous judgement will be a cause to rejoice I would imagine and we must continue praying for His will. Redemption and justice are coming...riding on a white horse. Come Lord Jesus, come quickly.

N,
Are you in California now? I had read an article not too long ago that said CA was really being sprayed heavily not too long ago and am interested to know if you in your wanderlust have now landed there. I think I also remember you said you really didn't want to go back there. If you are, I hope it is going as well as it can.

I don't know about anyone else, but I am putting all my trust, faith, hope and love in Jesus for my survival/existence no matter come what may. He makes everything so simple and sets us free in ways we are not even aware of. I see no need to stock up on anything other than our faith in Him. May it never be shaken and may our love never grow cold. Even with the growing trials and tribulations.

Keep looking up.
Love to all.

Missing you Sandra...love and prayers.

young brother said...

Every day it's getting worse. The Israeli ground invasion has led to the death of over 100 Hamas fighters, and hundreds more Palestinian civilians dead. The death machine of the Israeli army is so out of control that three Israeli soldiers were blown up today by an Israeli tank shell.

So far, 4 Israeli soldiers are dead, only 1 from Palestinian fire...and American journalists and politicians are still lining up squarely behind Israel, while the rest of the world gets angrier and angrier. What's happening is nothing short of obscene. The time of phony faith, phony piety, and defending the wrong Zion is coming to an end. Good riddance!

FF, Jesus does help lighten our load because we are expected to carry so much more when following Jesus; it's extremely simple, but still not easy. You're a great blessing.

NathanDave, I went to Ezra, and looked for that passage you shared, but it didn't sound anything like that in my Bible...I'm confused! Were you using a Catholic Bible (Was that 2nd Ezra?) The passage was an excellent share...very weighty, and very timely.

Nari, it's great to have you back in the conversation. If you want to see just how far God will go to protect his people, reread Acts (especially the 2nd half, with Paul's ministry). Paul survived shipwrecks, executions, and poisonous snakes (by the power of the Spirit). This is the very real, eternal Spirit that we must believe in. There is not one hair on your head that falls without your Father knowing it. Take comfort.

Dave Wilcox said...

Sorry YB, the Book was 2 Ezra, and it is not Canonical even in the Catholic Bible. But it is a very timely and I believe prophetic book.

Anonymous said...

FF to buy seeds for possible future use is not showing a lack of faith in God to provide for you.

In contrast, if you go to the grocery store & buy the poisoned food from the beast system are you showing a lack of faith in God to provide for you buy getting your food from the beast system?

Now I am not saying your going to be damned for buying food from the store I am just saying wouldn't it be better to grow your own food from the soil as God intended then to expect the system to provide food for you?
There may come a time when they will not even allow you to grow your own food(for our own benefit of course they will say)& at that time I am sure God will provide but to buy seeds & grow your own food would be a part of comming out of Babylon to not suffer from her plagues(eating their poisoned food).

When Jesus spoke about not worrying about the things you need he most certainly was not telling the people to quit farming & growing food for themselves, he was talking about people hoarding their food from times of plenty for times of famine while denying their plenty to the poor who were striving just to get by in times of plenty. Instead of storing up their extra food they should have been helping out the poor(storing up treasurer in heaven).

Anyway just my thoughts on it.

YB here is a link to all of 4 Ezra (Apocrypha). It is a good read I read it once a few years ago.

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=Kjv4Ezr.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=1&division=div1

Thomas

faithful forever said...

Thomas,

Thanks for the comment. Each of us must do what we believe God would have us do. I still only plan on stocking up on faith.

Just my thoughts.

19: Then had I pity upon your mournings, and gave you manna to eat; so ye did eat angels' bread.

Thanks for the great link Thomas.

Love and prayers to all.

Dave Wilcox said...

Interesting message:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=10716.0;wap2

faithful forever said...

That was very interesting nathandave. Thanks for posting it and thanks for all the blessings of your spirit and insight. Love you nathandave.

Our young brother,

Indeed, the world is getting more and more angrier at the slaughter of the Palestinians while Israel continues to show their arrogance to the whole world. What a thing to witness. Who can wage war with the Beast? Your kind words edify and strengthen me. I am thankful for the blessings that you bring and for being on this journey with you. More proof of how amazing our God really is, and I love you more with each passing day. May He continue to bless you and keep you.

Love to all.

Sandra said...

Thomas,
Please forgive me for coming in on the conversation you had with FF about storing up but I am thinking it might be because of what Jesus taught below:

Luke 12:22 - 12:26


Then Jesus said to his disciples: "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear. Life is more than food, and the body more than clothes. Consider the ravens: They do not sow or reap, they have no storeroom or barn; yet God feeds them. And how much more valuable you are than birds! Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? Since you cannot do this very little thing, why do you worry about the rest?

I think we have to be practical in all our daily needs but not to worry. This system wants us be fearful. They have us worry about our health insurance, money, retirement. They want us to buy into the American Dream (nightmare). So many did buy into the system and are now in trouble. They also got involved in the stock market and lost. We have no guarantee on any day but the day we are living in and to make the most of this day. To set our priorities which is to help people not consume. I have to admit because I follow that way of being in the world it does make it easier for me and I do as little as possible within the system of Babylon.

Revelation 7:3
Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God."

I do believe we will be protected during this time from the corrupt system if we do our part of coming out of it and not buy into the whole corrupt system of consuming. That is where faith comes in. FF if I am wrong in my interpretation please correct me.

faithful forever said...

Wrong in your interpretation. Nothing could be farther from the truth my amazingly beautiful sister.

What joy that you are back and the tears of joy are an amazing blessing, and I bow and give thanks to the one and only true God for all the blessings that His feet people bring.

Beautiful testimony Sandra.

Amazing.

Sandra said...

FF,
I had a crisis that I had to deal with. Without going into a lot of details there was a relative that was threatening suicide and called me to say goodbye and that she loved me. I managed to talk her out of it by the grace of God but than she needed assistance in getting help which I managed to get her. It wore me out but the Lord helped me through it and hopefully she will be able to turn her life around.

The world is falling apart and so many have lost hope. We are here to give them that hope and to show them through our actions the love of God through our faith in our Lord Jesus. Without that faith this whole world would be unbearable but we have his promise and teachings to get us through these times.

Thank you for your kind words.

Love to all

faithful forever said...

May the Lord continue to bless you and keep you Sandra. The holy goosebumps from that testimony have not stopped yet. I bow my head again and give thanks that she called you. Glory to God in the Highest for His faithfulness and the willingness of His people to be used in these times of trials.

Our work is just beginning and all I can offer are my prayers for your relative for the Lord to continue to lift her up and renew her spirit. Please send my love from afar and let her know that she is not alone.

Come Lord Jesus, come quickly.

I love you so much Sandra.

Sandra said...

FF,
I think I was being prepared for just this event. Eight years ago I had such a vivid dream that her mother called me to inform me she committed suicide. I just started screaming and saying NO...No and it woke me up and I was just shaking. I begin praying for her and have not stopped. Than this happened. She has a long ways to go but she took the first step in getting help.

Israel is in the mess it is because of it's hard heart. The world is opening it's eyes to the horror that is going on and this country is so blind in its support of Israel that it can not see the holocaust that is being done. The Gaza is Palestine's home and whether you think it is a good place to be at it is still their home. To be invaded by Israel is soooooo wrong.

I am not sure who this group is but thought this was interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=064hql9y7-E

Love you sister and to all who gather here.

faithful forever said...

An incredible story Sandra, and what a great testimony as to how God moves in our lives even when we cannot understand it right away. I am sure as soon as you got the phone call, your dream was first and foremost in your mind giving you strength and clarity.

I seen a headline yesterday about a billionaire who committed suicide because of his financial downturn but did not read the article. There is only so much sorrow and sadness one can take in a day. I felt sorrow for this man not for his financial downfall, but for putting his faith in the wrong place as so many do.

Many hearts are going to be faint by the things they witness in these end times, and I pray for strength from above for all His faithful, and how comforting to know how faithful and true our God is for He will not abandon us; nothing can pluck us out of His hand.

Love and His peace to all.

faithful forever said...

Let's hope but continue to put it ALL in God's hands:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/French_PM_says_Israel_Palestinians_accept_0107.html

The comment section has some interesting videos posted.

Love to all.

faithful forever said...

Ok, kinda having one of those moments...

After posting the conditional ceasefire article above from RawStory, the thought of 'peace and then sudden destruction' warning came into my mind and then didn't think any more of it until I seen this comment from Les' site:

gurnygob said...
Hi there. I just listened to Obama. He said. " I am conserned about what is going to happen in Gaza.... then as if it were a slip up he said..." what is happening in Gaza. Might be nothing, but it caught my attention.
Just wondering if he knows there is a lot more to come. I am hoping it was just a simple mistake on his part. I see Iran is getting brought in to it, more and more.
****

Anyone happen to hear this by any chance?

Expect the worst but pray for the best.

Love to all.

Anonymous said...

Just appaling....

http://www.tmz.com/2009/01/07/porn-kings-help-us-through-hard-times/

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

faithful forever said...

Greetings Annon,

That article, if really true, and I unfortunately have little doubt that it is, shows how perverted our society has become. It would be interesting to see if they do get bailout money; they probably already have. I read a few weeks ago that we were giving free Viagra to Afghanis - go figure. Anything is possible in Mystery Babylon, anything.

I was not aware that the Al Aqsa Mosque is located in Palestine. I am hoping our brother Ali or N can confirm or deny truth in this article. It would give a new depth to the genocide taking place in Gaza:

http://www.isesco.org.ma/english/publications/Protection%20of%20islamic%20and%20chrestian%20holy%20sites%20in%20Palestine/p5.php

faithful forever said...

Isn't the Al Aqsa Mosque by the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem? I apologize; I am confused.

Anonymous said...

FF

Never knew about CA being intensified with the "weaving." There is tons of interesting events and I feel that people are now learning the truth about this whole scam. I feel at the point that money is going to be very useless. came back to GA since December. The Chemtrails just started since Monday and intensefied. It had rained this morning, the temp is now dipping to the upper 30s and earlier we had high winds. It has been going on in Savannah for the last few days.

Yes the Al Aqsa Mosque is the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.

I have found a youtube site that talks about the Dome of the rock and how the Jesuits/Vaticans would create this false entity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHUTGt_lExc

YB,
I will be reading the bible soon and in an alternate state. Has anyone got the Gnostic Bible? One of my friends have an image of the book on the part with women and how women should be treated with honor and respect. I will find it soon when I have the chance.

faithful forever said...

Hi Nari,

Thanks for the link; I haven't looked at it yet, but I will. I agree with you completely that there is a lot going on. Attacks and potential attacks from many directions. A time like no other indeed. The Carolinas are experiencing 'torrential' rainfalls and flooding. One thing after another. Meanwhile Gaza rages and I cannot imagine the living hell they are living right now at this minute. My heart aches. There is a very cold, evil wind blowing across the whole wide world. Quite astonishing when you really think about it. Yet we carry on with the tasks at hand because this is what we know how to do. It's like living in a world within a world, or living in two worlds at the same time, or something like that.

I do not have a Gnostic Bible, and I am not even certain what it is to tell you the truth.

Going to check out your link now. Thanks for the fellowship N and hope you post more often.

Love and prayers to all.

faithful forever said...

That was a rather unusual link and either there is something to it, or absolutely nothing. I don't know which. I am confused again. It is interesting that Yellowstone has been rumbling in a very big way.

I know that many streets and monuments in DC and Philadelphia are set up in pentagram configurations. Anything is possible in Mystery Babylon. Especially a lot of confusion!

Things are so topsy turvy. Jesus is the only certainty in this weary world. Come Lord Jesus.

Anonymous said...

FF,

The Al-Aqsa Mosque and Dome of the Rock actually are two distinct places, however both are located on the mount Olive. As seen in this picture, the dome of the rock is the golden one and few hundred meters away to the left there lies Al-Aqsa (with a gray-colored dome) :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Jerusalem_BW_1.JPG

" The al-Aqsa Mosque is known as the "farthest mosque" in sura al-Isra in the Quran. During his night journey toward Bayt al-Maqdis (Jerusalem), Prophet Muhammad rode to Jerusalem (A miracleous transportation) and once there he prayed two 'raka'ah' on the place. After he finished his prayers, the angel Gabriel took him to Heaven, where he met several of the prophets and received commands from God via Gabriel that Muslims would be required to make five prayers daily." As read in Quran:

"Glorified be He Who carried His servant by night from the Inviolable Place of Worship to the Far distant place of worship the neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, that We might show him of Our tokens! Lo! He, only He, is the Hearer, the Seer. " (Holy Quran 17:1)

The Mount Olive, due to its significance in all Ibrahimian religions, is supposed to be the place where Judaism, Christianity and Islam should come together. But as we see today it has turned into a struggle.

It is another pity then!

Keep the faith,
Ali.

Anonymous said...

You are right FF, things are topsy turvy. I have always thought that the war in Gaza is just a warm up and we see today rockets were fired from Lebanon and Israel fired back. This may lead to another war with Hizballah that may drag Syria and ultimately Iran. Somehow the agenda of the Gaza war is slowly but surely unfolding before our eyes. What is next??

Just keep looking up and stay blessed

Annon

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/War-In-Gaza-Israeli-Airstrikes-Target-Suspected-Arms-Smuggling-Tunnels-On-Egypt-Border/Article/200901215199286?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15199286_War_In_Gaza%3A_Israeli_Airstrikes_Target_Suspected_Arms_Smuggling_Tunnels_On_Egypt_Border

Anonymous said...

Worthy to listen:

NPR's 34 Minutes interview about Bush's legacy:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99061358

Keep the faith,
Ali.

faithful forever said...

Oh, His amazingly beautiful people of the feet. How blessed we are and how blessed I am to be in your company.

I agree, Annon, Gaza is a prelude of what might be to come to the whole world and it most definitely is being used to ignite the fire.

What an exciting time to be alive and witness this extraordinary time.

I love you all so dearly. Watching this small part of the body working together is a blessing beyond compare in these dark days and I thank our God for bringing us together.

Timely information, great links and the best fellowship I have ever had. Imagine...in cyberspace even. Our God is SO good.

Stay blessed and keep looking up for surely our redemption is drawing nearer with every day. Come Lord Jesus, come quickly.

faithful forever said...

Sickening, just sickening:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123136613816062175.html

Anonymous said...

Disgusting and nasty,

Oh! Our folks have made progress:

Israel accepted to stop slaughtering for nearly 1 minute and 24 seconds a day! Giving its soldiers a chance to drink a spirit!

What an annoying world!

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

It wasn't supposed to go on air but:

CNN Finally Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire First and NOT HAMAS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H3iLouboQs

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

1 minute and 24 seconds - what is THAT about?

Great find, Ali about Israel being the one to break the truce. The truth will not stay hidden. I bet you somebody lost their job over that one. Unless the tide is turning and His feet people are starting to march...I can't wait.

Some are saying the rockets fired by Lebanon are another false flag by Israel. Probably so. The beast knows its time is short. Rejoice and praise God Almighty.

Annoying indeed. Painful and maddening too.

Keepin' the faith.
Love to all.

faithful forever said...

Nari,

You might have been on to something with your prediction of our money being no good soon:

http://news.aol.com/main/obama-presidency/article/obama-issues-dire-warning-on-economy/269859

Why can Obama speak about the almighty dollar and not about Israel?

Some are expecting Mumbai style attacks in the US soon and anything is possible.

People are up in arms about a cop shooting a man in the back while his face was to the floor; three cellphone carriers filmed the horrible incident:

http://news.aol.com/article/violence-erupts-over-train-shooting/298055

The world's on fire.

Anonymous said...

FF,

There was a piece of news today that both sides have agreed to take a 3 hour humanitarian truce every day to help the dead bodies!! and of course they swear to compensate in the rest of the 21 hours!

That (1 minute and 24 seconds) was my satirical referral to this ludicrous piece of news.

Keep the faith,
Ali.

faithful forever said...

Oh, gotcha Ali. I understand (and fully appreciate) your satire now. It is completely ludicrous. I can barely stand to watch and yet I cannot stay away.

I cannot find a link just yet, but someone at Les' site says this about Ohio:

Good news if you live in Ohio--ODJFS (Ohio Department of Job and Family Services) the branch that handles unemployment has had their web site crash for the past 4 days due to people trying to file for benefits online. Their usual call volume of 7500 per day has increased to 80,000 calls per day--
And the band played on.
****

We are going down soon. The market may well crash when the unemployment numbers come in; 'expected to be bleaker than anticipated.'

Love you so much Ali. Many, many blessings.

faithful forever said...

Now the UN halts aid:

http://news.aol.com/?feature=232890

faithful forever said...

Young Brother,

I hope and pray this is not affecting you; please let us hear from you.

http://news.aol.com/main/natural-disasters

faithful forever said...

Be afraid, ewwww, be very afraid:

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/inaugural_terrorists/2009/01/07/168935.html?s=al&promo_code=7728-1

Sandra said...

With all the bad news I thought this scripture might be uplifting for all here who are heavy burden with the suffering. Just keep the faith and do good to all. Washington State is having a lot of flooding so I am requesting all here to keep the people who are affected in your prayers.

2 Peter 1:3-12 (New International Version)
His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins.

Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

faithful forever said...

The birth pains are indeed getting closer together, Sandra, and the world seems at a breaking point. Those words from Peter are indeed inspirational and uplifting; just what is needed more than ever. Thank you sister. Our God is so good and what a comfort to know that He is in control. As young brother said, not a hair falls off your head that He doesn't know about. He sees and knows all. There will be many trials, big and small. It is temporary and the light will shine.

I hope your area stays safe Sandra as much of Washington is struggling in a very big way. Even commerce is being halted and you know how serious it is then:

http://news.aol.com/article/flooding-threatens-northwest-south/298251

I pray for all in your home state who are being affected by this disaster. It is one thing right after another.

Like Annon says, what's coming next? The whole world is waiting.

A time like it has never been seen before, but we know for certain that God's plan is perfect.

Pray continuously and call on His precious holy name. He is with us. I give thanks and praise.

Love always.

Sandra said...

FF,
I am doing Ok in my area so far but so many areas are flooding. It is even causing the closure of parts of the freeway. I was watching the local station last night and they were interviewing a resident and he said: "first came the snow and boy did we get that, than came the high winds and now the floods. What is next...Locust??"

Our faith will help us through these trying times. Thank you for your continuing encouragment to all on this site. It blesses my heart your faith and love.

Love to all

young brother said...

Amazing scripture, Sandra. Thank you so much for sharing it. This is one of the many passages that reveals what "The Gospel" is all about: Obeying the rules of righteousness, and behaving as though God were already on his throne here on earth. The Gospel is not just about Jesus, but also about his Kingdom which will come here to Earth. Which we will prepare ourselves and the world to receive.

Believing in the kingdom, and acting as if we were in the kingdom in order to help manifest the kingdom by example. That is the narrow road that leads to righteousness.

It takes practice, discipline, mental and spiritual training, but this peak of the spiritual Zion is the destiny of the feet company.

FF,

Thank you for your concern. I live in the Raleigh-Durham area, which is central North Carolina. I think the mudslide was in the mountains (western NC). There were a few fallen trees and snapped branches yesterday from a storm front. Strong winds, freak thunderstorms, a bit of hail, it was definitely eerie. I feel the spirit stirring too.

It's strange, to have a job where I have to hide my beliefs about the time we are in, I work and forget about it all, because everything is still operating as usual...then I remember what's going on, what's been building up, and what's at stake, and I praise and thank God that I know his plan for deliverance: the promise of his kingdom, and the defeat of the wicked which is to come.

Also, FF, thank you for keeping your post at the watchtower. Your vigilance is a blessing for us all.

Ali, the CNN clip has been removed. Can you re-cap, or do you know of a text publication that documents how Israel broke the truce first?

Anonymous said...

YB,

This is a mirror I've found in youtube. Hurry cause they gonna remove this one too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqWOy4g7l2c

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

An academic article:

IMPLICATIONS OF THE GEORGIAN CRISIS FOR ISRAEL, IRAN, AND THE WEST

http://www.meriajournal.com/en/asp/journal/2008/december/katz/index.asp

Keep the faith,
Ali.

Anonymous said...

And these two related headlines by Interfax are worthy to consider:

13:51 Medvedev emphasizes need for gas route diversification.

13:38 Russia, Turkey hold joint naval drills - Russian Navy

Keep the faith,
Ali.

Dave Wilcox said...

Great posts Ali, and it is further indicaiton of Bush and the Zionist state pulling and drawing the World to the Mideast for decision time. It also confirms that there are no alliances here beyond the alliances to achieve hegemony.

Sandra said...

Song:
"We will not go down" (song for Gaza)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlfhoU66s4Y&eurl=http://worldcantwait.org/

Anonymous said...

Has anyone else start to bulk up and get the basic needs? right now the USA is definitely not a safe area anymore, I want to spare but I feel that we need to leave this country. For now what I see so far is Mexico but we need some survival skills and people who can contribute on saving seeds, different types of seeds and good soil.

Today there were NO planes around for the chemtrails. Yep since wed/thurs there were none.

Now I heard that there are caves in Dulce New Mexico it is another area where they shoot trespassers. Also the so called aliens with their experimentation is none other than the perversion of the hybrid gene pool.

http://82muchf00d.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/8legs.jpg
http://www.federalpost.ru/issue.img/3/20376_Untitled1.jpg
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/Sciences/LifeScience/PhysicalAnthropology/EvolutionFact/GeneticMutation/10b2.jpg
http://www.trendhunter.com/images/phpthumbnails/5321_1_120.jpeg
http://www.hemmy.net/images/animals/strangeanimal02.jpg
http://worldscrazyanimals.blog.dada.net/post/437702/Top+10+Strangest+Animals

I will stop right here. This is how sick these people are doing to this earth and to the animals. I had to endure looking at them from my friend and I almost broke down. I feel that we need to move and get to better surroundings. This country is not going to be sane anymore. 2008 is the end of normalcy...

peace brothers and sisters...
N

Anonymous said...

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Video/070219/x_lon_4leggedduck_070219.300w.jpg
Yes people are really sick when it comes to nature where is the outrage about our money being spend on this?

I really also want to recommend checking out the Codex Alementarius and they are not kidding.

peace bros and sis
N

Anonymous said...

From the link below:

"The story of the 2009 war on piracy was best summarised by another pirate, who lived and died in the fourth century BC. He was captured and brought to Alexander the Great, who demanded to know "what he meant by keeping possession of the sea." The pirate smiled, and responded: "What you mean by seizing the whole earth; but because I do it with a petty ship, I am called a robber, while you, who do it with a great fleet, are called emperor." Once again, our great imperial fleets sail – but who is the robber?"


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-you-are-being-lied-to-about-pirates-1225817.html

Stay blessed and keep looking up

Annon

Anonymous said...

Sandra,

Thank you for that wonderful song. Really touching.

Annon,

What a great article you sent it here. I always wanted to hear another angle of this pirate story. It was really illuminating.
Thank you.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

Timing is everything so they say. Russia and Turkey join forces as the US and Georgia sign 'historic' accord...but not for 'military guarantees' for Georgia:

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Georgia_US_sign_strategic_accord_01092009.html

Greetings with holy kisses,

I cherish every moment spent here. I am blessed by the kind words and joyful that I haven't worn out my welcome just yet! And humbled also for we are all doing our Father's business. I am equally as blessed by all who gather here. Each a special gift from our Savior. Priceless, and just a taste of what is to come...imagine. I praise Him for the life more abundant that I witness when I come to our community of faith.

We all need to go a-pirateing, I say. The other side of the story finally revealed. Really cool, Annon. I too had been wondering what the real story was behind the pirates Ali. The depth of the darkness knows no bounds and I am sickened again.

Costa Rica had an earthquake and Southern CA rattled early today. Obama and Kissinger are getting ready to shake the world up with their NWO call for 'safety' because of the 'collapsing' economy. And things are moving right along in an ever quickening pace with the splendid gala event of the inauguration just ten days away now already (how they going to afford that in these tough economic times) - time is flying by. Anything can happen. It is an honor to watch this prophecy unfold with y'all. Whatever is going to play out, will play out soon and we will be shown to have been reading the writing on the wall correctly or incorrectly about George W. Bush. However it unfolds is God's plan and I accept His will, but unfold it will just the same. An amazing time, and still people want to talk about the weather - except now the weather really is groaning like all of us, but you know what I mean - I know you do. People still carry on as normal because this is what we do and we are still able to do it but I don't think that will be for very much longer...could be wrong again but with every passing day we are closer to the boiling point and the whole world feels it even those who want to carry on in the only way they know how - as routinely as possible. We never know how many are being silent like us, but many seem to not even want to have the ears to hear. Their denial is their comfort like the truth is our comfort. They cannot understand us as much as we cannot understand them. It is getting harder to deny it and I love watching it be revealed.

Sandra, I echo Ali's sentiments about the Gaza song; very touching and beautiful, and thanks for sharing. You do my heart good too sister. In a very, very big way.

N,

I remember when I used to want to leave the US, so I can relate very well to what you are saying, but the Lord can and will protect you no matter where you are. He is the same no matter where you go. The Lord tells us that there are no weapons that can be used against us. We need to be right where we are. Trust Him on this. He has already taken us out of the world while we are yet still in it. How amazing is our God. We may soon get to be more amazed than we have even been able to imagine.

I have been thinking short wave radios might be a good thing to have around, and would love to hear what anyone thinks.

YB, I believe our brother Peter is right; God is calling you to be a great leader.

I love the truth in your words nathandave; powerful insight.

You all amaze me, you people of the feet who are going to rock.

Keep shining.

I pray for the continued safety of all.

faithful forever said...

International law prohibits the use of white phosphorus and there is evidence Israel is using it, as well as depleted uranium and I am sickened again. Is it not obvious by now that Hamas is defenseless and I am saddened beyond words at witnessing this atrocity against all humanity and the Palestinians are bearing the brunt while the world watches. The horror equals the shamefulness.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21697.htm

Anonymous said...

Hi all

The nuclear waste thing is just the start of nuking and poisoning the region. The preparation for WW3and the nuking of the world has been underway since the Iraq war. Its just the same as the nuking we expect. This is much slower but just as deadly. Sadly they have been destroying the lives of innocent people and their livelihood for quite sometime.

I read somewhere, Iranian ship with humanitarian aid has set to sail to Gaza. And it seems to me that is potentially very dangerous and might give Israel the excuse to destroy the ship thereby triggering the long awaited attack on Iran.

FF, there is no international law, there is no convention. Its all joke and is not implemented against those who draft it. It applies only against the powerless and the poor. It is evil ruling those who rule over us.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon


http://members.tripod.com/vfas524/warstatus.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/bob-chapman-warns-of-false-flag-nuke-attack.html

faithful forever said...

Annon,

So true, and they mention 'international law' to either appease us or anger us as surely it does not exist. Nothing has stopped them from being a monster before with agent orange in Nam and depleted uranium in Iraq, so if any international law does exist, it is only for the purpose of them breaking it; never abiding by it.

Speaking of nuclear...timing is everything. The State of Virginia is commissioning a nuclear aircraft carrier today named USS George H.W. Bush. Laura Bush is the one to call it to 'life' and the carrier is a 'tremendous honor' for the entire Bush family. I am sickenend again.

Thanks for the great links and your amazing fellowship Annon. You are such a blessing.

Anything can happen at any time, and when it does, I have faith that the Lord is completely faithful in having prepared us for what lies ahead.

Love and peace to all.

faithful forever said...

How do you brace for escalation when you are trapped and defenseless. I wish it would just stop; who besides the Lord can wage war with the Beast:

http://news.aol.com/?feature=232890

Anonymous said...

There has been a caricature competition about Gaza in Iran , You can check them through this link:

http://www1.farsnews.com/plarg.php?nn=M407705.jpg

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

Greetings Ali,

I am sure emotions are raw when those pictures are drawn.

The coming escalation in Gaza is 'the next phase in the war of terror' and all I can say is our Lord knows what they are going to to before they do it, and surely they are angering Him and justice will be served:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28573204

Anonymous said...

My brothers and my sisters,

This is the video that I once talked about it (Live from Tehran). I think it is worthy to reexamine it now especially in our context. It has so much truth NOW that I watch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exByuPbwHD8

FF,

Greetings to you too my sister & thank you for the links you are sharing. Correct! also I read in JPOST.COM that Israelis would prefer to see their army in the action rather than seeing it static !! I can't believe how they change the words to spin for the killing of people.

Keep the faith,
Ali.

faithful forever said...

Keep looking up:

http://news.aol.com/article/2009s-biggest-brightest-full-moon-rises/300886

Anonymous said...

It looks like they are ramping up in preparation for a large military action. I am not at all convinced tones of these types of weapons are to fight against the mostly non-effective rockets of Hamas. The timing is interesting.
And lets not forget what Biden said:
"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

and

"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound." What a statement!

Add to that Collin Powell's "generated crisis" and try to figure out what is in store for the world.


http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L9736369.htm

Just stay blessed and keep looking up. God is at work.

Annon

faithful forever said...

Hey Annon,

If that article is true, and unfortunately it is more likely that it is, they are planning something really big. I agree the timing is interesting; just before January 20th, and the nifty new gigantic USS George H.W. Bush carrier sets out some time this week. They said this 4.5 acre carrier can go out to sea for 20 years without refueling. I suppose I am unpatriotic for not feeling proud. I watched part of the ceremony for manning this warship today, and heard part of the innvocation prayer that sounded like it started with, 'We do not come humbly before you Lord' and then I didn't hear the rest, but that sure caught my ear. Maybe a link will be available soon.

Indeed God is at work. Many blessings will be poured out also and I believe it can already be seen here in His people. For how amazingly wonderful this is, it will get even better.

The Lord tells us their plans do not come to fruitition and we know His timing is perfect and fully accept His will, but I so long for an end to all evil and even more so with the Gaza massacre.

The Moon is exceptionally beautiful tonight. I didn't see it, but a friend said there was a rainbow-colored circle around it. I have never heard or seen such a thing before. A sign in the Heavens perhaps.

Love and peace to all.

faithful forever said...

One thing after another:

http://news.aol.com/article/winter-storm-blasts-midwest-northeast/300901

Biden talks in circles just like Rumsfeld, but Biden seems like a little boy who can't keep a secret but that is to our advantage. He knows something is coming and when it is coming and he has a hard time keeping it contained.

I pray for strength to be given to us all for what lies ahead in the coming days.

Our God reigns.

Kelly said...

When I watched the unveiling of the massive, USS George H.W. Bush, I felt sick to my stomach, FF.

My first thought was, "How is it that our nation's tax dollars, when we're in such incredible debt and people are rapidly losing their jobs, can fund the creation of a vessel used for war..when the people funding it have 'no say' in the matter?"

It makes me utterly sick. What a slap in the face. It's bad enough how the Bush years ripped apart our nation; now there is a left 'legacy' of their narrowminded, military-industrial complex that who knows what it will be used for...

I try to remain positive...I try to see the good in each day I'm given, and help anyone I can each and everyday, and then I'm once again reminded of the country I live in. I'm not proud of many aspects of it, like you also said, FF.

I know God hears us..and I pray His ultimate 'say' will reign soon.

Kelly said...

Then I find this...http://www.voanews.com/english/AmericanLife/2009-01-11-voa1.cfm

One quote says it all, "President Bush gave the command to put the massive, nuclear-powered aircraft carrier into commission. "I hereby place the United States Ship George H.W. Bush in commission. May God bless and guide this warship and all who shall sail in her," he said."

Something about the 'God bless this warship' struck me...I can't explain the sick feeling I just got, it made me feel literally sick. Know what I just realized? He said "Warship" sort of like a play on words of "Worship."

"God bless this warship" not "worship." Am I reading too much into this? It's disgusting...I know something is brewing.

faithful forever said...

Greetings Kelly, If you are reading too much into this, then I am too. It's always good to have company. His real followers know that it must surely be an abomination to pray for blessings on a warship. I have still been trying to find a link for the invocation prayer but unsuccessfully. I had the same feeling you did about the play on the words of warship and worship with the invocation prayer. We know they are evil and it is only fitting that ~they~ clash with our spirit.

Routinely these carriers are not named for people who are living and what makes him so worthy?

You keep staying on the positive side and keep shining that light like you do Kelly. It is one of the many ways we can further His Kingdom.

Love you sister and always good to hear from you.

Anonymous said...

I have a question here. What year are we in??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V01NDDgye_k

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

I just watched your link, Ali, and I am sickened again even though I know this is the mindset they have in their all-consuming shameful self-righteousness. The depth of evil for how low it can go, is nothing compared to the glory of the Lord. Is this how God's 'chosen people' should believe and act? Not the God I serve.

It does not seem real that the horror in Gaza is entering the third week already, but to the Palestinians it surely feels twice as long. I just want it to stop and it keeps going with nothing being done. There are mass protests across Europe and in Lebanon, but the fact that this is 'allowed' to keep happening speaks volumes about the desolation of our world and giving power to the beast and it is raging.

Come Lord Jesus.

Dave Wilcox said...

A prayer for peace...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kivf5Wi1q0c

Lord, love is stronger than hate. Please strengthen us with your love in order to bring your peace and healing to this broken and sinful world. Amen.

faithful forever said...

Beautiful.

Both the prayer and the video.

Nothing else I can say right now.

young brother said...

FF,

I just read your comment from yesterday (1-10) marked at 2:01AM on my computer, and I have to say, AMEM Sister! I can tell that the spirit was on you that night, and you were just letting go. If we were in a proper church setting, I would have been bobbing my head and raising my hand, shouting "testify!". This one quote in particular is really terrific:

"It is an honor to watch this prophecy unfold with y'all. Whatever is going to play out, will play out soon and we will be shown to have been reading the writing on the wall correctly or incorrectly about George W. Bush. However it unfolds is God's plan and I accept His will, but unfold it will just the same. An amazing time, and still people want to talk about the weather - except now the weather really is groaning like all of us, but you know what I mean - I know you do."

That's the sort of boldness that we are to have in the day of judgment. We are so close to this, and have been for so long, that it can be easy for us to miss the forest fire for the trees (or burning bushes).
The world knows that something is going on, but they're not sure what it is. We know what it is: a spiritual war between kingdoms. As we learn more along the way, we will be (and are being) equipped to help effectively connect the dots for people. The kingdom of God is coming to earth! This is very good news, and we, by the spirit, are among the messengers who will deliver that good news to the world.

By the way, FF, when did Peter say I would be a great leader? was it on the blog, or through an email?

Nathandave, I have been completely absorbed by 2Ezra (In my book, it's 2Esdras). Fantastic prophecy, and indeed very, very timely! Thank you so much for the share.

Ali, Thanks for the news link. I caught it in time, and it doesn't surprise me that youtube would ban it...George Orwell, eat your heart out!

young brother said...

oops! it should be AMEN Sister!

faithful forever said...

Now I would be bobbing my head and saying testify...for we are closer and closer to the burning bush but have grown acccustomed to the heat.

Has Peter never told you this? It was not my intention to breach a confidence as much as it was to agree with it. One time through the rough parts when you and I bumped our hard heads against each other, I mentioned what a pain you can be sometimes, and Peter told me that He believed that God was going to use you to be a great leader. I have witnessed the growing pains of such and you are going to rock. Of this I am certain, and Peter was right again (like usual). Keep shining young brother; it is amazing watching your testimony.

Anonymous said...

I found this in NASA.gov:

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/spaceweather_hazard.html

Here is an excerpt:

" The sun is currently near the minimum of its 11-year activity cycle. It is expected that solar storms will increase in frequency and intensity toward the next solar maximum, expected to occur around 2012 .
.
..Depending on severity and nature of the storm, the collision with Earth's magnetic field called a geomagnetic storm can affect satellites, air travel and power grids. "

Our God is the greatest.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

This is just a slice of the main story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-UCqEBywck

(No Graphic Imagery)

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Russians report on a delivery of a new American cargo to Israel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMu83JeBhA4

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Sandra said...

NathanDave,
Thank you for the link on the video. I so long for love to take over this world and all the hate to disappear. For Israel not see the holocaust they are doing just shows their blind faith that they are right and not see the harm they are doing. Jesus said "why do you see the speck in your brothers eye and not the log in your own."

Everything is happening according to God's plan but it still is hard to witness all the man made destruction because people's hearts have harden. Let his Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exByuPbwHD8

David Duke, Ali?

The man was the head of a terrorist organization! He hasn't changed much. And yes, he hates Jews! He uses anti-Zionism as a fig-leaf to cover it.

David Duke is poison.

Anonymous said...

I guess we are getting there.
What a wild month this is turning out to be!

God is in control.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/israel_iran_attack_plan/2009/01/12/170485.html

Anonymous said...

These are the wankers the US supports?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f

And these wankers are doing what to Gaza?

Anonymous said...

...and we have this prediction:

http://pr-canada.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72649&Itemid=32

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

Sandra said...

Balor1,
That video link on that young Jew was horrible. For him to say "we killed Jesus and proud of it" is shocking to me. I had no idea that they talked like this. It looked like he was drunk. They have such hate in them and truly believe God is on their side and can say and do anything. Very sad..Why do they hate Jesus?

Here is a link to Russell Means opinion on the whole issue:

http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2009/01/russell-means-breaking-silence-on-obama.html

Anonymous said...

This party is the party of "wipe off the enemy", Israelis admit :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0T76O_Xg_8

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Rabbis in Iran, Foxnews, Israel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

It clears how Judaism differs from Zionism.

Balor1, This is the same content but from different person.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Thank you Ali, but David Duke doesn't really love Arabs either.

He is a racist. He may not use words like "nigger" or "kike" or "raghead" anymore because American racists have to hide their racism these days. He uses anti-Zionism as a vehicle to spread anti-Jewish anti-semitism.

Anonymous said...

On describing why Jews have lived in Iran and Arabic countries with respect and friendship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9CDxZhj9UM

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

Greetings to all,

Less than one week to the inauguration...let the countdown begin. Bush sure has been 'out there' recently with a bigger smirk than ever it appears to me. Both Obama and Bush are calling for the 'last' of the bailout money and the finalization of this lawlessness seems final in some way. Like taking the last of what is left in the coffers before they 'bail out' and crash the economy causing all to not be able to buy or sell. Mass mayhem instantly when money is useless. More death and destruction, just what the Son of Perdition is all about. I fully believe we are on the edge of a revelation.

All the world is holding their breath to see what happens next while we wait on the Lord, our God whom we love and serve with all our hearts. He is our everything and He is all we need. Praise His holy name.

Ali, in my humble opinion, Zionism and Judiasm are as different as the colors black and white. The contrast in their beliefs is just as stark and anyone who cannot see it, may be permanently blinded by the veil of delusion. I support your cause completely of differentiating between the two and your argument is not lost on all. May He continue to bless you in your march for truth. The same for all you people of the feet. Keep marching and let none deter you for it is written on our hearts. Follow your heart always; it will never lead you astray.

Balor, I am sorry but I have to say that you seem to be missing the point of distinguishing between those who are really Jewish and those who just say they are (Zionists). This is hard to understand.

YB, I just have to say I know what a pain I can be, and have been, and will be again. Looking back where we have been and now where we have come to, I wouldn't change a thing to be where we are now in this wonderful moment together on this amazing journey. I love you more than words can say.

All my brothers and sisters who dwell here, I am honored and so very pleased to be among you that it brings tears to my eyes.

And this is our God. What He has in store for us is better than we can even imagine...

Our redemption draweth near. I pray for His people everywhere to be delivered from the suffering and oppression.

Anonymous said...

Amen FF, and please keep us in your prayers too.

First Israel said they never used it but now they say, they used it based on international regulations. CNN too is confirming it (Graphic Image but must watch ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQWl_uQKxOI

IDF white phosphorus use not illegal:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231866575577&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

I hate these people, I hate their international regulation, and I hate them for what they have done to the world due to some thousand other reasons and THIS was my message of peace to them!

Keep the faith,
Ali,

young brother said...

FF

Ah, ok, that makes sense. I don't know if Peter has ever said that to me in so many words. He is encouraging, and a very good teacher, but goes out of his way to make sure my ego doesn't get too big. It's very nice to know that both of you feel that way, though. I'm grateful for your encouragement. You and I have been through a few tangles over the years. Some of them were very hard for both of us, but we have made it through, thank God! It is amazing for me to witness your growth as well, sister.

Annon, January has been an incredible month so far, what a time to be aware!

Balor, thank you for being a watchdog against racism and hateful people. This ongoing effort from you is so crucial to the health of our group. There are a lot of deceivers out there, on all sides of this global conflict. By no means will anyone get to the kingdom of God unless we are freed from hate and fear.

It is possible to hold a legitimate stance against Zionism, which is not antisemitic. This is a very tight rope to walk, but crucial, if we are to understand what's going on.

We simply can not allow ourselves to see all Jews as predominantly evil (which we will be tempted to do); but at the same time we can't overlook the strategy, actions, and anti-Christ spirit of Zionism for fear of seeming anti-Semitic. There is an enemy of God's Zion that is affecting the world more and more every passing day. That enemy is Zionism. It will be exposed, and undone in due time. I hope you watch the video link above...this is a message best expressed by the lips of a Jew!

Ali, WOW! What a video. Amen, and Thank you for that share! I am going to put it in my next post, on the Gospel of the kingdom of God vs. the milk gospel and the doctrine of Zionism. This is exctly the sort of thing we've been anxiously waiting for. The rabbi in this video is speaking truth to power, and my heart rejoices to hear and see it! What an amazing time to love God on this Earth!

young brother said...

three comments between when I started, and when I finished. To avoid confusion, the video I was referring to above is here.

This is a busy time, FF, the feeling is mutual, and amen to your testimony! I feel the same "disturbance in the force".

Anonymous said...

As per the below article, Bush aint leavin.

http://www.teambio.org/2009/01/13/obama-barred-from-white-house/#more-6914

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

Anonymous said...

faithful forever,

No, I am not missing the point of distinguishing between Jews who are anti-Zionists and Jews who are Zionists.

The Devil will always tell you some truth in order to further his agenda of the lie. I am simply pointing out one of the Devil's emissaries - David Duke.

I have known of David Duke since I was a teenager. He knows how to push peoples' buttons and inspire hatred.

It is because hatred comes more easily to me than love that I want to warn you against the likes of David Duke. He can seduce you in to the path of hatred - all you have to do is listen to him.

Guard your heart well. In times like these you need three times as much compassion to offset the bitterness of justified outrage.

That drunken settler wanker in video I posted? Is there that of G-d in him? If I can't say "yes," then what hope is there in this world?

Sandra said...

YB,
The following quote by you is so true and we must guard against hate when we oppose Zionism.

"It is possible to hold a legitimate stance against Zionism, which is not antisemitic. This is a very tight rope to walk, but crucial, if we are to understand what's going on."

We must guard our hearts against hate. The link I gave on Russell Means is an example. Even though he says truth he has bitterness and hate in him which turns me off. I met him once and shook his hand and I got a chill of coldness in his spirit. Racism is in every race and we must break the link of bitterness and hate.

Jesus said we are to love our enemies and to do good to those who use us. The spirit of love and compassion is a gentle spirit and is not proud or arrogant.

Balor1,
NathanDave and I discussed at length with Ali the racism of David Duke in a previous post which got quite heated so did not feel the need to go there this time. You are right he is a racist and is using anti-zionism to further his cause.

Annon,
Wow your latest link of Bush not leaving is amazing if true. I am going to do some searching to see if I can find out more on this. Thanks for the link.

Sandra said...

Annon,
Was that last link a parody?

Sandra said...

Annon,
You got me on this one. I just woke up and was reading the comments and going to the links. I looked further after that and the author said it waa a parody. I feel stupid that I fell for it. Oh well....although I did say I was going to look further which I did.

Anonymous said...

Sandra they hate Jesus now for the same reason they hated him then, because he took away their privleged status they believe they have through a bloodline to Abraham.
Like John said, produce good fruit & don't think you are saved by being decended from Abraham.
They have to produce good works to earn their salvation now & they do not like that but would rather believe they can do as they please & will be saved soley on their bloodline but as we have already seen most of them do not even have that.

I am talking about Zionists of course & not jews.
Judaism is a religion & not a race. Anyone can become A jew but most of these zionists do not follow their own commandments or even believe in God literally.

Just my opinion of course.

Thomas

Sandra said...

Thomas,
Thank you for answering my question. I am new to this whole debate on Zionists and the more I learn helps me understand the difference.

Your opinion is welcomed.

Anonymous said...

John 3:18-21
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

Thomas

Sandra said...

Thomas

I have that on the entrance of my front door but I have it starting with John 3:16 through 3:21.

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

Would you consider the link Balor1 gave of the young drunk spouting off in his self-righteous tone a Zionist and not a Jew? It saddens me so much listening to him and wonder how wide spread that belief is among the Jewish people since I have become aware of some of the words spoken about Jesus in the Talmud. Is the Talmud something all use whether Zionist or Orthodox Jews? I can't reconcile the words spoken against Jesus in the Talmud but I do know Jesus said in:

Matthew 12:31-32 says, "And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

Luke 12:10 says, "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."

I guess you can say I am confused and would love the opinions of others.

Anonymous said...

Well Sandra, many have debated what the unpardonable sin is.

I can tell you that I do not think that the young man in the video is doomed for his words against Jesus. I think he can still repent & be saved because I believe Jesus still loves him even though he does not love Jesus at this moment.
I will say though that I got pretty pissed myself hearing his words & if I was there I would have took that bottle of his & .....well you can guess but I would not have been right doing so.

When Jesus said what he said to the Pharisees it was because they said he was driving out demonds by the authority of satan.
I would guess it would be when you attribute the works of God as being from satan & the reverse attributing the works of satan to God but I am just guessing & can't tell you for sure.

I wouldn't mind hearing what others have to say on that also.

Thomas

Dave Wilcox said...

Very graphic video. If this offends, I apologize, but this video is avaialable on global research.ca for all to see.

The truth of Israeli crimes must be revealed.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-802851144676245446&ei=9mVtSfPeLISa-wHv86Fz&q=Gaza+war+crimes&hl=en&emb=1

young brother said...

Thomas, I agree with you on that. I believe there is a certain amount of leeway for those who are deceived by those who blaspheme the holy spirit. But the actual blasphemers (false prophets, priests, shepherds) are committing an unpardonable sin by their actions.

I also agree that those who curse Jesus now may live to praise him in the days of the Kingdom. I believe there are some atheists who live much more righteously than so-called religious people, by being honest, and fair, and kind, and peaceful; and these nonbelievers will be judged with mercy.

We all know that the day will come when every knee will bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord...All the nations of the world will gather at his feet in the day of the Lord. I think that's exactly what Jesus is saying in that passage. Even blaspheming the son can be forgiven. His blood is just that powerful.

But for those who blaspheme the spirit: who call lies the truth as God has said it, that is an unforgivable sin.

That's my two cents. Great conversation, you two. I'd also love to hear other people's take on this.

faithful forever said...

Balor1,

I didn't see how you could have been missing that point and I am glad I was mistaken. I hope you can forgive me for the misunderstanding. It is so true that the devil will give you some truth in order to further the agenda of the lie. Truth comes to us in many ways, but one of the beautiful things about truth is, no matter where it comes from, it is still truth, and it always defends itself.

In a just released tape Osama warns Obama of jihad, and the powers that be tell us the tape is authentic. Of course it is, and they should know...they made it like all the others. It just doesn't get much stranger than this - Osama and Obama!

Greetings Thomas, It is a confusing time, but you are less confused than you think and it is good to search and question. God knows the condition and desire of every heart. As His followers, we hope for all to be saved, as you said even at the last minute. Our God is a miracle worker and only He can sort the tares from the wheat.

Oh, the glorious harvest of the Lord.

Love and peace to all.

Anonymous said...

FF, very true & resonating! because:

Truth is independent of its Author.
Truth is independent of perception.
Truth is independent of facts always.
Truth is independent of belief.
Truth is independent of what will sell.
Truth is independent of human beings.
Truth is independent of the mind.

And the only truth, is the absolute truth of our Lord, that has been sent down to the mankind through his prophets. Now, whoever resonates it, s/he becomes part of it, even for few seconds.

This itself shows why our prophets were really great people because they spent their whole life resonating God's words.

Keeping the faith with you sister,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

People against Israel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHmHdOmQ-Cc

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Cellphone Story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-noMCxIu_Q

And I have a news here, BBC has launched its Persian TV Channel recently covering Iran, Tajikestan and Afghanistanis who speak Farsi, hopefully to deceive as many as they can.

Keep the faith,
Ali.

Sandra said...

Corruption Begins with Obama's Inauguration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etqj_ecN4I4

:(

faithful forever said...

Greetings Ali and everyone,

Truth is a very powerful entity and will not be contained very much longer. Truth is a beautiful thing to behold when we are able to embrace it, but it can also be very hard to accept. There is going to be so much revealed and I believe it is going to happen very fast; faster even than time is passing by now. Truth is beginning to march and we better get used to seeing more of it. I rejoice and make a joyful noise unto our Lord for the light that the darkness has never been able to extinguish. The light is shining brighter and the truth is going to burn up the world with its' fire. I pray for His will, His righteous judgement and all His ways to be done on earth.

So much to say, so much happening, but never enough time. Maybe that will be changing soon also...many changes approaching on the horizon I believe.

Powerful article, but a bit graphic, but very insightful:

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/bloodshed-in-gaza-and-beyond-israel%E2%80%99s-national-orgasm/

My love and deepesst gratitude to all.

faithful forever said...

* deepest (of course)

Interesting exchange to which we can all see and relate; truth is marching (go feet):

As I see it, the main purpose of the Gaza show is demonstrate to the governments and peoples of the world that they are helpless to do anything to stop whatever TPTB wish to do.

Graphic demonstration: We can do anything we like and you can't do anything about it.

2:11 AM
Visible said...
All I can say to that Michael is that someone is in for a big surprise.
***

A big surprise indeed.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Anonymous said...

Satirizing brutality; Israeli comic TV show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcBWOI5CW_8&feature=channel_page

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

FF have you not seen the protests posted right here on this site of TRUE JEWS against what is going on?

Judiasim is not a race it is a religion. The zionists are not Jews because they do not follow the Torah.

If they were Jews they would not do this but because they do they are not Jews.

They drag the name in the mud calling what they are doing God's will & they will pay a heavy price for blaspheming the name of God.

As you have pointed out to me yourself most of these people are not even hebrew & to call them Jews as if it is a race is just wrong but even if they were decended from Abraham they would not be Jews because of what they do.


Matthew 3:8-10
8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, 9 and do not think to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. 10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

John 8:37-41
37 “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. 38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.”
39 They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.”
Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 You do the deeds of your father.”

When that person throws out the word Jew to cover a whole people as a race it only serves to promote hatered of a race as a whole. This is what Baylor is talking about.

Let each individual stand on their own merits.

When that person says that Jews are not outraged about what is going on they are wrong because even Ali has shown that Jews in Iran are protesting.
They held protests in NY & London also.

Thomas

Anonymous said...

Greetings everyone,

I have uploaded some photos of Malaysia in my Album. Hope to enjoy it:

http://picasaweb.google.com/formulateme/Malaysia20072008?feat=directlink

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Sandra said...

Thomas,
Thanks for explaining that Judiasm is a religion not a race. After you posted that comment I went to this web site which states the same belief:

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/news/newsletters/RJ20080516.cfm

I am still learning the difference between Judaism and Zionist and appreciate the exchange of ideas here.

FF,
That article you gave a link to was to crude for me and I decided not to read it. Thanks for warning that it was graphic.

Anonymous said...

-Please watch this before it gets removed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gah_cu3czvc


-Also a brief on the Qatar Summit and Gaza:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JswcLKkt570

-In the meantime this is what is happening in some small cities of Iran:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5IidlfCfNI

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Obama: " We have to engage Iran in ways we have not before !"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSOWtLMEQ-8

It means buckle your seat belt Dorothy because Kansas is going bye bye.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Sandra said...

In an interview posted on his Web site on election night, former Louisiana state Rep. David Duke said Obama's election "is good in one sense -- that it is making white people clear of the fact that that government in Washington, D.C., is not our government."

"We are beginning to learn and realize our positioning," Duke, a prominent white supremacist, later said in the election night recording. "And our position is that we have got to stand up and fight now."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/16/obama.white.supremacists/index.html

Anonymous said...

"Down with Obama!" In an anti-Israel-US small Iranian demonstration people said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVSlVaxfZlA

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Keiser: Int'l system financing Gaza
atrocity

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=82600&sectionid=3510213

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

...buckle your seat belt Dorothy because the false flags are coming.

Great links and posts everyone.

Sandra, I was hesitant about posting that article because it is written in a very crude manner, but the symbolism of how the Zionist Jews (those who say they are Jews and are not but are of their father Satan) have sickened and raped the whole world for a very, very long time and what has brought us to where we are now with their cover being blown open.

Thomas,

I appreciate your comment and to address your issue, I understand the difference between the political movement of Zionism and the religion of Judaism. Who are the real Jews? God knows His remnant. Most likely there are many of them living in Gaza. I posted the article because of the hard truth behind the article and I thought that most here have gotten or are getting past the simplicity of the prejudicial name calling. I guess I was mistaken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-JtM2QYIk0

There is talk of a Egyptian brokered cease fire that may last for 10 days (and then what??) and Israel is saying the offensive is in its endstage...just in time for the inauguration ceremony:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_PALESTINIANS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2009-01-16-20-29-44

Love and peace will prevail.

Hey Ali, I just seen your post while I was posting mine, and just wanted to say your vigilence is greatly appreciated. I believe it is correct to say that Obama is disliked and mistrusted by the Muslim peoples because of his stance of silence about Gaza.

The world is on fire.

Anonymous said...

FF,

I asked an informed friend of mine in Iran and he said the demonstration was staged by a hard-liner organization.

However I doubt about the following video, shot at NY, being staged by a hard-liner organization!

No Pants Subway Ride 2009 !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9La40WwO-lU&feature=dir

Promoting nudity for you and your family hopefully living prehistoric similar to our ancestors.

What a world!

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Since when in the nature that we know, an explosion makes the intensity of sun increase ten times?! and also a white tone dominate a scene?! Watch and compare to Qaza explosions that you see everyday on TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPhIC3TsdY

Need I mention this link again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gah_cu3czvc


My brothers and sisters we should not hesitate to revise the past because the history that we know is only a CONSTRUCTION and not the truth.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Greetings everyone,

ARTE France has announced the release of this story of people who have been torn between east and west:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DigrJOaQ0EI

I actually am really waiting for it. Wanted to share it with you too.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Signs in the sky or the blue beam project?

Things are really getting strange as never before. Strange as it may also seem even the best of atheists are convinced that something is out of the oridinary and about to change our world. But we worship the God who made things in order is still at work.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1117264/Beam-Scientists-left-baffled-mysterious-columns-coloured-light-appear-night-skies.html

Anonymous said...

I really don't know whether I have to apologize for posting this much here or not. But I can not simply contain myself.

I invite everyone of my brothers and sisters to watch this following link. This will bring a new understanding to the current crisis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS_eeTY95ZQ


Annon,

Wonderful and very strange pictures.


Keep the faith,
Ali

Anonymous said...

FF when you said (Who are the real Jews? God knows His remnant. Most likely there are many of them living in Gaza.) just what do you mean by that?

Do you believe real jews are decended from Jacob?

You posted this before

http://christianparty.net/ashkenazi.htm

Do you believe the people in England are real jews?
Most people from England are decended from Germany & Scandanavia.

Do you think there is a bloodline that makes a person God's & are all others of satan?

I hope not.

I thought I showed you scripture that showed that God's people are determined by their works & not their bloodline.

Anything else is just racist BS.

These people who try & justify themself by saying they are decended from the lost tribes are no different then the zionists.
They try to justify themself by bloodline & not works.

Anyone who does the work of our Father who is in heaven are his true Isreal.

Thomas

young brother said...

Thomas, I'm pretty sure that FF sees that "real Jews" are the oppressed, the meek, the poor and the downtrodden people on earth. That makes the most sense to me, from what I know of her faith. I could be wrong about that, but please be careful about jumping to conclusions.

This issue of Zionism is a non-stop argument maker, but it's been an ongoing discussion...we've all learned and grown in the process. I just hope that we can continue discussing in the spirit of peace and respect.

Anonymous said...

I was asking & not assuming anything.
If to ask is jumping conclusions then I apologize but then maybe you should take your own advice & not jump to conclusions yourself.

As a matter of fact maybe you should not jump to conclusions & answer questions for others. I am sure she has a mind of her own & can answer for herself.

She has posted many good things that have opened my eyes to some things I havn't seen before but that site was lying about there being no protests among the jewish community & only seemed to promote hatred towards ethnic jews.

Some truth sprinkled with lies.

But since you are the all knowing boss here I will not post anymore on the subject but will expect no one else to either or are others allowed to post things on here about jews & zionists with out me responding to them?

young brother said...

Thomas, why are you now attacking me? You are being very rude to me, and your "questions" to Forever Faithful were hurtful and snobbish. I'd appreciate it if you would calm yourself down instead of acting this way. I'm not the "all seeing boss" here, but I take my walk, and this group very seriously. None of us should be attacking each other just to feel better about ourselves. We don't have time to fight, I am not your enemy.

Anonymous said...

Thomas,

I am afraid you are getting this incorrectly. No one sets a tone here. Likewise no one tells the others if they are "allowed to post a certain topic" here or not!

I believe whatever topic you would like to bring forward you have to make sure not to attach any prejudgments into it. Moreover we do not criticize other's opinions here my brother because, I have always said, there is so much information out there that is really difficult to evaluate. Thus, we usually bring forward a counter-argument with some new evidence, hopefully, to show the other side of the story. Nice and easy :)

As YB also has stated, we just hope to see the spirit of peace and respect attached into the questions as well as the comments and shared contents instead of expectations, demands and prejudgments.

I am sure you already are enjoying this stream that we have here and I also hope you to add another extraordinary dimension into this stream !

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

But YB thats the exact tone you took with me.You accused me just for asking questions and then ac as if I created the subject & insist on bringing it up when it is FF who insists on bringing it up.

You are hypocritical.

If Baylor says something against that garbage it is ok but if I bring it up I am being hurtful.

You treat people differently.

Maybe you should check yourself.

A good leader is impartial.

Sandra said...

Personally I don't want to get caught up in the world with it's different sides. Jesus said we are not of this world and we are to be the light of the world. Getting caught up in the agenda of some group that has motivates behind their blogs is one way of being deceived. The author of the article Mark Glenn is from a right wing extremist group. I searched the internet on him and he has had conferences with David Duke. If others want to read his article they are free to do it and form their own opinion but I chose not too. I personal was just going to keep this to myself because it causes such emotion on the issue but decided to share it.

Thomas,
I see nothing wrong with you voicing your opinion on the issue. I am learning a lot on the whole issue. I am new to this talk on Zionist and Judaism. That is how we learn with dialog and debate. We are not followers of any individual but our following is to Jesus and his teachings.

YB,
I must be reading this wrong because I did not see rude behavior with Thomas in his dialog with FF. I just saw in his comments to her that he is asking her questions to get a better idea of where she is coming from because we all can misunderstand comments posted here. Now I did see rudeness in his response to you.

1 Corinthians 13:3 - 13:10
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails.

Anonymous said...

Oh & by the way, I figured you must be the boss since you are speaking for others on here.

You make it pretty plain that I am not welcome here by your impartial treatment of me compared to others so I will shake the dust off my feet & move on.

Sandra said...

Thomas,

Please don't go. I am sure you and YB can work this out.

young brother said...

Thomas,

My first impression of your comment to FF led to my response to you. One of the questions you asked was,

"Do you think there is a bloodline that makes a person God's & are all others of satan?"

Since I have known FF for a few years, and she and I have discussed the topic of Zionism and the real Israel in-depth time and time again, it seemed like a ridiculous and demeaning question to ask. Now it could have been sarcastic, or you may have asked just to prove a point; it may also have been a sincere and innocent question. I am hoping that FF will comment soon to explain her stance on the matter.

I clearly offended you by responding, and I'm sorry. But if this exchange causes you to want to leave, you might want to ask yourself why.

I am only human. Whether I am the "leader" of this group, or not. (It doesn't seem that you would like me in either role). Instead of accusing me of hypocrisy, please just search the state of your heart today. You seem to be on edge, and ready to fight. I don't want to fight you, and I'm not trying to censor you! I was just trying to be helpful.

I don't want you to stop commenting, and I appreciate your insight (as others here do). We just all need to stay mindful of the temptation to quarrel. We can discuss, even debate without quarreling. That's all I was trying to say.

faithful forever said...

Thomas, if you are still there, and I believe you are because you have said you 'monitor' this site, I would just like to say that this topic has become somewhat of a passion of mine and it is complex and may be well beyond my limited understanding, but it does not deter me from searching more and the Lord is my guide always. The Lord is revealing a lot of truth in these days just as He said He would and it is a joy and a blessing to have an outlet for it. I would never intentionally propogate hate against any person(s) or nation for any reason - ever. Prejudice in any way, shape or form is a major stumbling block every time for every one. Those that know me realize that was not my intention and I am deeply blessed and edified by the understanding; very deeply.

The same spirit that crucified our Lord many years ago is alive and well today and desires our demise as well. If we are not to concern ourselves with this, our Lord would not warn us as strongly as He does against those who say they are Jews and are not.

"FF when you said (Who are the real Jews? God knows His remnant. Most likely there are many of them living in Gaza.) just what do you mean by that?"...I believe this is the heart of the matter and will do my best to address it and pray that I do not cause more strife in doing so.

In my searching, I have come to believe our amazing God is an equal opportunity God since Jesus' death (Galatians 3:28, Romans 10:12) and this is good news for those who are not physical decendants of Abraham. All who call on the name of the Lord are spiritual decendants of Abraham (we are grafted in), but God has saved a remnant of the Jewish people. Only those who have bloodlines from the Twelve Tribes can truly call themselves Jews and are the physical decendants of Abraham that have been dispersed repeatedly throughout history, and I believe it is more than possible that many of the physical decendants of Abraham (His remnant)are in Gaza being persecuted and called the enemy of Israel by the design of the old foe from long ago. ~They~ (Satan and his demons)are angering and tempting our Lord in ways we cannot understand because of all the lies since the very beginning. Satan knows full well unfortunately what he is doing, but our Lord knows better; far, far better.

I did not agree with everything in that article, but I did not write it and it is always prudent to attack the message rather than the messenger. I posted it because it shows the depth of the deceit and moral corruption and bankruptcy that has permeated the world that we have grown so accustomed to because ~they~ call evil good and we have been desensitized by it and can barely recognize truth because of the cunningness of the evil one.

I was hurt by the tone; I do not know your heart but God does, and I hold no hard feelings, and I pray you can do the same.

This is an exciting time and I am ever more grateful for my brothers and sisters whom I love more than my own life and would defend in any and every way that I possibly could.

The steadfastness of your testimonies have increased my faith and there are no words to describe the joy that this brings, other than our Lord is busy doing His work in those who are faithful to Him and you all are living breathing proof, which includes you as well Thomas. There is no reason to leave. We will always have misunderstandings but the Lord works everything to the good, if we allow Him. I pray for all of us to always allow Him to do His work in us through whatever means He desires for it is He and He only that knows best. He will show us everything we need to know; of this I am certain.

I pray for an end to this strife so we can take a step forward (feet movement) in love and understanding to keep searching and learning, all you amazing people of the feet. I love you all.

Peace in His name.

Sandra said...

Thomas,
Please reconsider leaving. We need each other in these times and you have added to our discussion. When a disagreement happened before this is what you posted which was very wise and it is true:

You know pride can be a hard thing to swallow.
I find it sad that a little difference in opinion or misunderstanding can drive a wedge between people just as satan likes it.
This was just a little speed bump but there are huge potholes in the road ahead. If we can't get past this little speed bump how will we navigate the potholes ahead?

When we refuse to swallow are pride we are thinking only of our SELF but when we swallow our pride, even though we may feel we were wronged or misunderstood, we are dying a little to SELF for the benefit of the whole & this is a noble thing in the eyes of God.

A little pride is of no value to you but can destroy us all so it is better to swallow it then to let it swallow you.

Just an observation of mine & you can take it any way you choose.

Thomas

12/17/08 8:55 AM

I am hoping that you return. I don't want to lose any in this community. Please

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