Sunday, January 25, 2009

The Road Ahead in the Era of Responsibility.

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On Tuesday, January 20th, just after 12pm, Barack Hussein Obama was sworn in as America's 44th president. Approximately 2 million people flocked to Washington D.C. so that they could take part in this historic transfer of power. It must have been an intimidating show of support; Obama seemed calm, confident, and happy when he walked out to his seat, but when he swore in, his poise faltered in the first few lines of the oath. Conspiracy theorists everywhere are seeing that moment as a loophole in the transfer of power. But when I saw it, I was reminded of the fact that Barack Obama is a human being, facing down an army of 2 million jubilant supporters, and he was a little more nervous than he let himself show.

During the past two years, Barack Obama rose up from the ranks of campaign democrats, and successfully out-shined republican challenger John McCain, mostly fueled by peoples belief in one thing: Hope. He personified, and very eloquently expressed Hope from the very beginning. He even released a book called, "The Audacity of Hope". The hope for a change in leadership, hope for an affirmation of promises made by Civil Rights giants 40-50 years ago, and hope that we would be made to face the energy and environmental challenges that have been ignored for too long have made this rise to power possible. The first two hopes have been realized, and the third is next in line.

We have come this far on the fuel of hope, but all of the millions of people who have been mobilized so far need to start moving by another motivation. We need to step up to the plate, and change the way we relate to one another. We need to remember what it means to love our neighbors as ourselves, and we need to put that knowledge into practice. We need to see the light of the coming day of peace as something that is not coming from the white house, but is shining within our spirits, within our grasp, manifesting itself in every loving choice we make.

At this point, a lot of people are being tempted to sit back, and be passively led by our new president. The temptation is to dismiss the idea that the ball is in our court, that the challenges which face our president are facing us as well...Obama's charge and challenge is to correct this perception. That seems to be a high priority for him. His inauguration speech is a testimony of that.

We cannot see Barack Obama as our savior. We must maintain our composure, and understand that he is just a leader, who is trying to guide us in the right direction, and that the real anointing belongs to a larger group that Christ refers to as "the elect" in his explanation of the last days in Mark 13. This is a very sobering passage for any believers who are tempted to refuse their responsibilities in this day by deifying our new leader. Let me share just a few selections from it to show that Christ knew there would be real power from God in many people at the same time that there will be false saviors and false prophets in the earth. It's a very confusing time, but this is precisely as confusing as a field of wheat mixed with weeds at harvest (which is another, powerful last days parable given by Jesus in Matthew 13).

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The "Elect":

Mark 13:9-11,13
"You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. And the gospel must first be preached to all nations. Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit... All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved."
vs 20
If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them.
vs. 27
And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.
Warnings of False Saviors:

Mark 13:5-6
Jesus said to them: "Watch out that no one deceives you. Many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and will deceive many.
vs 21-23
At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect—if that were possible. So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.
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A lot is going to be happening all at once; the "birth pains" of the last day are in full swing right now. We've got to set our eyes on the narrow road that leads to righteousness, take up our crosses, our burdens, and follow through, no matter what happens. We can overcome as long as we follow through.

George Bush was the kind of leader who told this nation to sit back, relax, and shop while he took care of the challenges and problems that we encountered under his reign. W assured the people that he would take care of security after 9-11-01 (our borders are still embarrassingly porous and vulnerable, and America has made more enemies under Bush's leadership than ever before). He also promised to rescue New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, and let four crucial days go by without making any effort. Mark 13 contains the famous line, "Abomination that causes desolation", which I think is still clearly Bush. So far, Barack Obama has only inherited desolation, caused by the last abomination.

I think the main red flag we should look for from Barack Obama's leadership is if he ever tries to take away the burden of responsibility that he is placing on us now. That is the real test of the spirit behind him.

God does not seek to glorify any one man above his own begotten son, who was sent to Earth with the wonderful news of his Father's Kingdom burning in his heart, eager to be told. Jesus was embraced by many common, simple people; recognized and accepted for the light of the world that He is. Some teachers accepted him as well, but he was eventually murdered by a conspiracy of religious leaders. After his resurrection, there sprang a church that was anointed in power, filled with Joy, infecting the Roman empire with it's message of hope, love, King Jesus, and his coming Kingdom. The message of that kingdom has been lost over time, and the church is not the spotless, righteous institution that it wishes it were. Likewise, in this day, there will not be any single person who will prepare the earth for the return of Jesus. Jesus is the head of a body of promise. In proper birth, the head comes out first, and the feet are last. So will it be in the last days; not another child (like Jesus) but the completion of the body of Christ in a group of equally blessed, equally necessary people working together in common purpose (the feet).

The distinction between one messiah, and a group of anointed people is so crucial in developing our understanding, and our faith in what the last days will be like. It is not proud to believe and hope to be a part of God's plan to change the world, and to devote your life with integrity and honesty to that hope. If you focus on God, and his power and promise of deliverance, and you pledge to do whatever you can to serve and help God, He will use you. God is recruiting from the highways and bi-ways, calling all who are willing to take part in his great celebration of marrying his son (Christ) to his Bride (the real church, the remnant around the world). If you want to make the world a better place, figure out the best way that you can take action on that desire, and go for it! The time for this sort of revolutionary responsibility is right now.

1 Corinthians 1:26-31

For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, that no flesh should glory in His presence. But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the LORD.”






146 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is Barack Obama a natural born American? Was George Bush ever actually the legal president? Just as Mr. Bush cannot in all truth answer the second question, neither can Mr. Obama answer the first. The truth is out there, but no one on Earth has access to it. One needs to press through a forest of hypotheticals in order to even begin to understand why this question is relevant. The eleventh hour Executive Order by Mr. Bush to enable re-investigation of suitability of government employees, may seem shrewd, petty, pointless and even vindictive, but the key word here is necessary. Not that it has the slightest chance of spoiling the results of this election, but because it is a required step in the administration of Universal Justice. Mr. Bush presided over the most massive failure of high level public service in a civilized nation in modern history, bringing the nation as well as the entire planet to the brink of destruction. Many factors contributed to this failure, the most obvious being incompetence, arrogance and dishonesty. Of course the complete list is a great deal longer, but these would simply be more descriptors of human foibles, all of which can be forgiven. The constitution does not require the president to be either honest or capable, simply duly elected. Treachery may be the biggest offence, which is dealt with in the constitution. If we exclude tough love as a motivation, then clearly the Bush era was characterized by a total lack of providence, though he did feign some religious devotion early on. He could, hypothetically, claim he as unsupported by the benign powers because he was not duly elected, and cast his failures upon a spiteful god. The fact that he absconded with a position due a better man, was unprepared, consulted only himself and ignored all polls, would then be immaterial. Suddenly, Obama appears, seemingly starting out with every conceivable disadvantage, poor, half breed, parents long gone by separation and death, constantly uprooted surrogate family, living in one of the least developed nations, a successful self made man who hits the scene driving a 10 year old car. Obama who by every indication will become a political superstar, a modern Lincoln, inherits the most disastrous set of conditions imaginable. Even the market is 2000 points lower than when Bush took office! Imagine for a moment that he manages to recover this great nation from the edge of the abyss, and actually reforms it. What arguments would the dark have then? Is anyone going to care if he was duly elected? It may be the better part of discretion to let this sleeping dog lie…but since they are kind enough to bring it up themselves…the dark may be letting the wind out of the only sail they have.

*sorry to repeat but the other thread is done....

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NathanDave said...

Great post YB. Loved it. These are interesting times, are they not?

Balor1 said...

Thank you, Young Brother.

Thou speakest my mind.

Sandra said...

YB,
Great post. For those of us here who voted for Obama we did not do it out of worship of a mere mortal but out of a sense of urgency of stopping the downward spiral of the human race into greed and corruption. Obama will make mistakes and he has even said that he will. Kinda refreshing after 8 years of Bush never claiming any mistakes. Obama has never said he was put into the office by God as Bush did. He worked hard and is not a spoiled rich boy that got in by election fraud. He came from a working class family and got where he is from hard work. He made mistakes along the way as we all do on our path through this life. He has been in office only a few days and people are already ready to tar him. It took a lot of years to get into this mess and he is not a miracle worker. He is not the messiah and can not perform miracles but has asked all of us to take responsibility and help in our community. To serve the better angels in all of us. Not to go shopping but to extend a hand to the less fortunate. A society is judged by how we treat the least among us.

I was emailed this quote from a friend. It is this generations "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

"What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility -- a recognition on the part of every American that we have duties to ourselves, our nation and the world; duties that we do not grudgingly accept, but rather seize gladly, firm in the knowledge that there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character than giving our all to a difficult task." -- President Barack Obama

Link below:
Obama to Bush: I can release your records. Don't like it? Sue

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2009/01/11919_executive_order_13233_revoked_obama_bush_sue_me.html

Ali said...

Sandra you stated:

"He is not the messiah and can not perform miracles but has asked all of us to take responsibility and help in our community. To serve the better angels in all of us."

Sandra,

I am afraid you have misunderstood the message of Obama. Basically, Obama is a full circle back to the beginning. His era of responsibility asks for your considerations to tolerate with the old ruthless BLOODY system of elite capitalists- the evils that the blood of innocent people of this world is dripping from their hands and the hands of their followers. He is asking you and America as well as the world to come together, to recognize your duties in serving the same exact God-damn looting system that sent Enola Gay over Japan, committed atrocities in Vietnam, Panama, Iraq, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq again and Qaza and many other places. Does any of these satisfy anyones spirit here? Sandra? Need I mention about WWI, WWII and the full support of this system in establishment of the one and only stain of this world -ISRAEL- as a gift in return to its financial stakeholders??

Everyone please I need an answer, if the old godfather of immeasurable atrocities,usuries and frauds sends a messenger to tell you that he wants to CHANGE, would you accept it or would you become suspicious of that messenger too?

I, would like to think of Barack Obama as that messenger . However, there is a difference: He "himself" volunteered to send this godfather's message across !!

Now, my question from everyone here is how come our community of faith is neglecting to see this simple analogy? And what reflection does this mean in our community of faith? Why would we like to RESET ourselves every 4 years regarding the newly set narrative of our society? Are we playing with ourselves or our God? Shouldn't we instead submit ourselves to the words of our God? Haven't we had enough? Haven't we been deceived enough before? History is testifying in front of us and later we have to testify in front of our God too. But, history will testify against Us in register of our God. You know why? Because our version of history is construction of the same exact God-damn evil system.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Ali

I am incurable convinced that not because who he is but because of whom he is surrounded by, the change Obama promised might end up breaking the hearts of millions. I have a great admiration for him and would love and pray to see he will stand firm against all odds and lead the USA and play important role in the world stage. Having the favor of Kissinger and Zebgnaw(whatever his name may be) in itself is an addition to the already messed up mess and doesn't seem to lead to a any better change to say the least. In fact the record of those around him is not that appealing. And it doesn't seem that Obama has a choice other than follow the snakes through a different but same old deadly path. He might follow his instnict and try to do the right thing( which I believe he will,) and that may touch the nerve of the elites who may "generate" crises which may "test" his mettle. Powell knows that very well. So does Biden.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

http://www.hermes-press.com/societal_apocalypse.htm

Anonymous said...

...and O' yeah,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090126/wl_uk_afp/financeeconomybritaing20

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

Ali said...

Annon,

You mentioned very important points that they should also be considered 'significant parameters' but what I stressed for wasn't Obama's incompetency, but the empire whom he is serving for. And the same system will demand him to do 'unimaginable things' sooner or later. And I believe Barack himself already knew about this. I mean, come on Annon! Every politician know the rules of the game. They only pose for the masses! And that is exactly my point: The trap for the public. Unfortunately some of us, sometimes, neglect this vital issue. And I really don't expect to see this here, in this community of faith.

Annon, Thank you for that article too. This statement of "the birth-pangs of a new world order" or "the birth-pangs of a new middle east" is the statement of "FREAKS" only.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Oil of Ipecac is a poison used to expel a greater poison from the body, and one can analogously compare it to the use of cynicism to combat treachery. However, once the true poison has been purged, it makes little sense to keep dosing with Ipecac, because then one will poison themselves with the remedy. It must be used sparingly, leaves a horrible taste in the mouth, does not work on all poisons, makes things worse with some poisons, and to ingest it after the real poison has taken effect only makes things far worse. It is not the kind of medicine one takes just in case one might be poisoned in the future. On the other hand, following a fine and healthy meal with a fine vintage of Ipecac is completely idiotic. Cynicism, while often a useful and cathartic attitude when confronted with absurd and treacherous behaviors, has no positive effect when its use is not indicated. Cynicism, sarcasm and irony all have their place when attempting to shine light on darkness, but cast a pall on objects of light. We have endured a poisonous period of history, and have vomited it up, including the hairball that was Mr. Bush. It is natural that while we are still surrounded by the stench of retch we do not yet find our next meal, though wholesome, to be all that sweet.

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Ali said...

Sometimes a periodical retch is the symptom of an abdominal cancer, especially when it re-occurs itself in the history of a nation. A cancer which the body has been unaware of and has been underestimating it, or intentionally neglecting it. Be mindful of your body

Keep the faith,
Ali,

NathanDave said...

Ali,

I hear you. I too am wary of the Obama administration. However, the entire Bush presidency was a power grab from the start, and the Obama election was clean, legal, and involved a huge popular base. It is different, and I think that there is always a possibility of change. With God, all things are possible.

America is not the only empire that benefits from its policies. the European Union Benefits, Russia Benefits (an oil competetor, Iraq, is less viable) China benefits, Iran benefis, Israel benefits. They are all on the same team Ali, don't be fooled. Real change will only come from God and God's people.

Sandra said...

Ali,
My people have been part of the atrocities committed by this government and do know your concerns. The majority of all in the tribal community cast their vote for Obama. My question to you was what were we suppose to do. Sit the election out and let McCain be voted into office. His followers were trying to use race as an issue to divide. There was a clear choice of voting for a man who was against the war in Iraqi and one who voted for the war. He was very much in the minority on this issue. This country was lied to on the involvement of Iraqi and most of our leaders went with the lie. I know that the only true change will come in the hearts and souls of people who commit their lives to the teachings of Jesus and bring that forth to the larger community. That is what I try to do in my small part in my community.

This country has been into selfish pursuits for a long time. We need to wake up to our material consumer mentality and what it is doing to the planet and the world. People are beginning to wake up but only because their finances are being affected not because of their love for God. Service to others has been lacking as most were in pursuit of all the material wealth they can gather. They are suffering now because they put their faith in the wrong place.

We always have to be on guard with any new administration. That has not changed for me.

Ali said...

NathanDave,

Harry S. Truman's election was legal and clean too. Dwight D. Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan and many others, too, were elected based on popular vote. Show me a difference NathanDave. Where is the difference? They committed atrocities some even worse than George W. Bush's. Truman sent Enola-Gay over Japan two times based on the same legal popular vote than you are fooling yourself with it. Dwight D. Eisenhower helped structure of Israel. Need I mention about the rest of them? Because it could go on and on and on...

You stated "With God, all things are possible" and "Real change will only come from God and God's people." I have to remind you (& ourselves) that "God does not guide the unjust people." So please don't forget this. Because we all know that God is the best seer and the best listener, and he is watching us as well as our nation and our willingness to rely on "An Evil Empire" to bring us change. Instead, keep the faith my brother and don't let a simple scenario like Obama's case deceive you from the truths.

Sandra,

Correct me if I am mistaken, you mean that there were no other choices except Obama?

If this has been the scenario I have to say that this is the exact thing that happened 4 years ago in Iran. I voted for Ahmadinejhad ! because between the Bad and the Worse I decided to choose the Bad one, because only comparatively he was better than "Rafsanjani" the other one who has been famous of looting the country.

If this has been the same case for Americans, I deeply express my sympathy to you Sandra because I know exactly what you mean.

It is time to forget the earthy CHANGE promised-motto. Lets just not rely on anyone except our Lord, our God to bring us the real change. And for this we have to confront the earthy evil empires and not to sympathize with them.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Sandra said...

Ali,
No need to apologize because there were others on the ballot. I made my choice between Obama and McCain.

I agree that real change comes from the Lord.

I know your frustration and if I helped bring it about forgive me.

Anonymous said...

Among the many things that those that consider themselves believers find impossible to dissuade themselves of, is the notion that since Christ walked amongst us once as a man that he can now blissfully once again set foot upon the planet In Power, and do so in contravention to man-made law. This would be to live by the maxim of Richard Nixon “~if the president does it, it is not against the law…!” When Christ returns, he comes with the Hosts of Heaven, along with millions and millions of helpers, and if not preceded by an invitation would technically be an invasion. Invasions of any kind, good or bad are prohibited. What then constitutes an invitation? In a most fundamental sense, it is the yearning of the heart to call upon our ascended elder brothers that we may benefit from their love and wisdom. Individually, we can invite God into our hearts in this manner, but if we wish to bring the more noble civilizations visibly to our shores, we need to extend this invitation planet wide. How many of us here on Earth need to express this sentiment before it is accepted? Mr. Bush proved that even if one follows a most ruinous path, 22% will still consider it a ‘heck of a job’. Unanimity is therefore a practical impossibility. The best that can hoped for is a simple majority, as would be reflected by an election. Unfortunately, as recent history has shown, even a majority is ineffective if those in power have taken measures specifically to hinder such a visitation. Mr. Bush et al, have indeed installed exactly such measures, with stipulations of martial law and other responses in the event of any visitation. One of Obama’s primary missions is to ferret out and rescind all pertinent restrictive orders so that a formal and orderly welcome can be implemented.

(Ahmadinejhad is far from 'bad', in fact he is a Light Worker, and his relationship with Obama will change very soon once they have had an opportunity to meet.)

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Anonymous said...

I would suggest if others have different views on this subject put your views out there with your own posts. Why is Young Brother the only one contributing to this blog and in some cases taking the heat especially with the latest subject. I notice others are listed as blog contributors. Step up to the plate if you disagree.

Ali said...

Sandra,

When I take a look at the history of 100 years of spin, when I see how we have been spun over and over and over again and yet we think this time is different, my frustration turns into a long term disappointment.


Anonymous,

I would like to ask you how much do you know ahmadinejhad? In other words where your impression of his character has come from? The media?

Keep the faith,
Ali,

NathanDave said...

Ali,

Great points my friend. Well, you certainly raise points that I have struggled with over the years. We are all trapped in an unjust system to some degree, and are limited in our ability to effect change (there, I said it. Change). I do not expect much of Mr Obama, but I hope that God will at the very least moderate the policies of our country through his administraion. And my point about God making all things possible, God can cnahge any situaiton. Example, 5 years ago I was convinced that the world would erupt in a nuclear war. Today, I am not so sure. I was ocnvinced that Bush would never leave office, and now he is gone (thank God).

So I hope that things will improve, and God can do this. Already, a war with Iran, which I thought was inevitable, may have been avoided. Just my opinion.

Sandra said...

I know where others are coming from who are warning us against Obama. I take your warnings seriously and in no way disrespect any who have different views than mine on here. We are all here because of our love for the Lord. I just can not always focus on the dark side and their deeds or I will become bitter. Jesus said love our enemies. So many don't want to do that. It has been said that there is truth out there even in hateful sites. Can there not be truth also coming from words spoken by Obama that each of us needs to start taking responsibility for caring within our communities.

An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.(Gandhi) Can we make it to a higher place of love and respect. That is my hope. Not in a man but in the Lord who guides us.

Ali,
You posted this when we were going through our election:
Ali said... To all my brothers and sisters in United States of America Good luck with your choice! :)

Keep the faith,
Ali. 11/4/08 5:32 AM

We voted that is all Ali. Just as you voted in your election.

Anonymous said...

~What was proven to you in the election of Barack Obama was that change can happen fast, that it is often spawned by the deep experience of that which is not desired, and that there are many, many others who share your same desire for creating a good and beautiful world.

~We know the power of consciousness…like a giant flock of birds or a school of fish, it can move in perfect harmony and shift direction more easily than imagined. Cats are independent and go every direction, but an individual aligned to the greater good moves with the flock to reach the singularly desired destination. Once achieved, the individual freedom returns, for it is never lost…

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Anonymous said...

Annonymus said:

"(Ahmadinejhad is far from 'bad', in fact he is a Light Worker, and his relationship with Obama will change very soon once they have had an opportunity to meet.)"

My friend it won't be long when Ahmadinajad slaps Obama in the face. Equally, it won't be long when the honeymoon finishes and Obama will order a strike on Iran nuclear facilities. I don't know what makes Ahmadinajad a "light worker" when he gets his directives from the self rightous Ayatollahs and fanatics who some how make themselves little gods. Lets not just focus on the personalities or character traits of individuals, instead descern the forces that surround them who are obviously instruments of the dark forces. Remember evil rules those who rule over us. Our hope should instead be on the true God whom we seek His face and without whom we can not see anything.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

Anonymous said...

hate sites being monitored:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/01/26/costello.obama.hate.groups.cnn?iref=videosearch

young brother said...

Sandra, I am with you. There has to be a fine line that includes both diligence and hope. "Love believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things." From the example of the reign of Bush, and the desperate need for real change, if Barack Obama doesn't hold true to his word, we won't be deceived by his charm alone. I continue to have the audacity to hope he is honest.

If OBama turns out to be a deceiver, at least we'll be prepared!

Anonymous said...

All countries are experiments in human interactions. They are all valid to some degree, because they offer a means to understand the different aspects of the strengths and weaknesses of various systems of economic, political and religious control and order. It is necessary to experience every one of these aspects in order that we become whole spiritually. What may seem at first glance to be separate individuals, races and nationalities competing and struggling in a cruel world, are in reality artificially segregated aspects of a common humanity that have chosen to undergo these experiences within the context of uniquely different social structures. These structures are not all on the same level of societal evolution qua politics, ethics and religion, nor are they equal in terms of financial, military or ecclesiastical power. Each nation has its own peculiar set of circumstances that in total provide the broadest possible range of challenges and opportunities for spiritual growth. It would be pointless for all these nations to be founded on the same principle, as this would completely defeat the purpose of this planet, which is to provide not only a variety of school-like living environments, but also to create fertile spawning grounds for new ideas and methods of co-operation. A sincere student of this process will quickly discern a wide disparity in resources and quality of existence available within these divisions. These societies are by no means static, as their spiritual progress is contingent on the overall effectiveness of the various institutions to enhance or degrade the quality of life of its members. It is impossible to know what God’s plan is for each nation, and how each will change; suffice to say each has its own destiny. Light Workers, or individuals of a spiritual inclination, volunteer to enter these societies to accomplish a re-ordering or transformation of certain undesirable conditions. It is necessary that they then work within the existing framework, understand the mechanics of that society, and are willing to subject themselves to the norms there present, despite often having advanced well beyond the current life in previous lives. Jesus demonstrated this form of ministry by a similar sacrifice.

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Ali said...

I saw a Pakistani friend of mine who recently has come from his hometown. He told me Ali if you knew who are really being killed in the villages of Pakistan in which Americans (Mr. Obama from now on) claim they are targeting Taliban or Alqaeda, you would have cried blood! He said that these people are the poorest of the poor. They don't have even access to drinkable water and they have to travel far to get it everyday. Most of them live in very simple situations with a hope that, someday and only someday, a change might come & knock the door and give them access, at least, to a pairs of AA batteries, hopefully they can listen to a radio or something.

Thanks to the change campaign, now that change is on its way:

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=83794&sectionid=351020401

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Ali said...

Sandra,

I had hoped a tremendous luck for you and our American friends in doing your most important socio-political duty which was voting but I never hoped to see the veneration of a politician in our community of faith as some of us did it here. And I think it is time for me to leave this topic to this community to decide. I have tried to alarm my brothers and sisters as best as I could. Forgive me, but I needed to be a bit frank.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

Greetings to all,

What 'change' has come to our blogsite. We now are so easily led away and blinded just as those who supported the Bush administration? When did we forget that the wolf covers itself in sheep's clothing and every single politician is where they are because they have been put there by those who rule this world. Obama was selected because he understands better than McCain 'what needs to be done.' Obama is a Freemason and his wife is a CFR member.

An excerpt from the article Ali posted:

"Four days after assuming the presidency, he (Obama) was consulted by US commanders before they launched the two attacks," Guardian said Sunday.

Earlier, Obama had threatened to invade and send ground troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists - even without permission from Pakistan's Government.
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The war on terror, that started with the Bush administration, was based on a complete lie (911), and it is still a lie that has remained a lie under the Obama administration that is now 'changing' the front of the 'War on Terror' to Afghanistan and Pakistan. Obama defends the lie. Afghanistan's President Karzai is shouting in the wilderness about the increased attacks on civilians, but the world turns a blind eye once again. The beast rages on and I refuse to support it in word, thought or deed.

Supporting and widening the war on terror is not the work of one who follows Jesus no matter how ~they~ try to spin it.

Anonymous said...

A careful hunter is wise to keep abreast of the location of his own traps lest he be caught up in his own snares. Often those who clamor the loudest for the return of the Lord are least able to see him. Either He returns to them in unfamiliar form, proclaims truths foreign to their ears, or assumes a post previously held by rogues, many are the reasons. Is it the task of man to set the conditions for His return, insist adherence to a specific plan, to deny Him should He come to shatter their illusions? The first will be last, and the last first. The ignorant and downtrodden saw the Christ well before the well studied and knowledgeable Pharisees. The line between prudence and suspicion is subtle, one only the heart can discern, and if our hearts are hard our eyes will be blind. Prudence allows one to approach another with due caution, suspicion poisons our perceptions by projecting our fears. By what odd logic does the Devil follow the Christ? Surely the reverse is true. Or has the man of perdition not yet appeared? Is the total destruction of the Earth itself the only evidence some will accept? The Earth shall endure, the World shall not. All around about the World falls, the prophecies are fulfilled, and yet the there are many that lament its destruction and pray for its rescue. Open your eyes people, the train has already left the platform.

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Ali said...

Israel is the only democratic state of the middle east (or maybe the entire planet). I just concluded this after watching this video. Watch this maybe it changes your thoughts too:

CBS Report:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1UCn6YnfbE

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Ali said...

Bishop Richard Williamson Interview,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C9BuXe2RM

Keep the faith,
Ali,

NathanDave said...

This is one of those moments where I wonder what we are arguing about.

Ali, I think everyone here agrees that the war is ongoing, I have said as much, and I think we all agree that the Beast is still in power. I think that YB's post was well written, and I agree with the anonymous poster, every time he posts he gets his head taken off. (Makes you wonder why he does it?)So lets all take a breath and really try to understand each other for a change, instead of beating one another over the head with our "facts."

The new anon is offering a different point of view, one that sees human life as broken (sinful, is this a new concept for us people?) and yet infused with the love of God, which works in subtle ways. Read your scriptures people, in the Book fo Isaiah, God calls Darius the Mede his "anointed." How could this be, since he was the emperor of one of the beasts from Daniel's prophecy? Because he was anointed for a specific purpose, to gather the people of God back to their homeland.

Lets keep awake people and let God decide how the end times will play out.

Anonymous said...

NathanDave

Thank you.

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Anonymous said...

I agree with you completly FF & Ali. I posed a question to all the people at the Is Bush The Anticrist site many years ago that knowing how corrupt our govt is & has been with dems & reps alike, knowing the whole system is the beast, what would you all do if Bush leaves office & a democrat became president? Would you all shout for joy & go back to living your lifes knowing all is well now in Babylon? I would hope the answer is no because no matter who is president of this system the true leaders of it are still in place & Babylon still exists.

To the Anonymous {}
You seem to believe in the evolution of consciousness. Do you think we will evolve into a God like state because this is what the mayans believed.

Could you answer me why the bible says we are all born into sin & are in need of redemption & we all must repent?

Thomas

Ali said...

Nathandave,

I really didn't understand you this time, explain which one of the above "facts" makes you feel beaten please? Are you referring to this sentence of mine that "I have tried to alarm my brothers and sisters as best as I could. Forgive me, but I needed to be a bit frank." Please explain.

Thomas & FF,

I agree with you too. And the point that all of these, as FF said, shaped around a big lie (9/11) shouldn't be neglected. This is important. We are living in an ongoing spins and manipulations. This, is that "ongoing" war.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

NathanDave said...

ALi,

I dont feel beaten, and I am not really referring to you brother. My point is, we all agree with each other much more than disagree, yet lately it seems that certain issues are presented in such a way that you must agree with the point of view being made, or you are doomed to destruciton. It appears to me that facts are being used as hammers. Maybe I am wrong, I certainly could be mistaken. This is what it seems like to me.

Also, its pretty clear to me that YB gets the brunt of the attacks from people around here. I know he is not syaing that "all is well" because Obama is president, yet that is what he is being accused of. YB has been called a "false Prophet" a "deciever" and some people here are implying he is worshipping Obama as the Messiah. Is that fair? What is going on here?

Obama is closing Gitmo. He is shutting down Abu Ghraib. Karl Rove is being forced to tesify. Am I not supposed to be happy? Does that mean I am worshipping the beast? This is why I do not understand what we are talking about here.

Maybe this is a huge deception. Maybe its all smoke and mirrors. When 9-11 happened, I got this wierd premonition hat it was all BS. when Bush Invaded Iraq, I felt that God was calling me to fight this deception (weapons of mass destruction). I don't get that feeling with Obama. Maybe I am wrong, but I do not think so.

Anonymous said...

Life as we know it here on Earth is an illusion, a game we play to discover ourselves and evolve. Is this to mean that the atoms are not real, or that we don’t actually exist, or that this game is not a serious one? Of course not, the physical world is very real, and the game now played is very serious, though it need not be so. Just as when we discover the trick behind the magician’s illusion causes us to lose interest, the illusion we live under must be convincing to have any value at all. If we become aware of the illusion and expose it, then the game ends, and a new and different game would need to be played to continue this evolution. If a magician performs a clever trick, but doesn’t say how it is done, is this dishonesty, is he then lying? If he spun a yarn about how he used dematerialization or some other impossible technique he would be guilty of lying, but if he remains silent he is not. This is somewhat the nature of the illusion we are under. God has created for us a temporary environment where two poles of attraction are ever present, and has allowed us individually full freedom to gravitate to that which has the greatest appeal. Such a reality is called a duality, and has the property of polarity. Keep in mind, these are creations that serve an educational purpose, much like toys to a child, and one day will need to be put away. These poles have end destinations, on the positive side there is God and integration, on the other death and disintegration. The reason why none of this information is presented in books such as the Bible, is for the same reason video games don’t come with crib sheets, and why you should never read the last page of a detective novel first. The game needs to be played first.

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Ali said...

Nathandave,

I appreciate you for explaining this to me- making it clear. I agree with you to some extent only, especially in this: "yet lately it seems that certain issues are presented in such a way that you must agree with the point of view being made, or you are doomed to destruciton."

..Now, I also have to admit it hasn't been the first time either that we have been 'implied' to self-censor ourselves. And unfortunately this matter has become very pervasive and a preferred way of concluding debates ever since the time that it began in this place.

If I have understood you correctly, you are stating that this opposition of ideas and their supportive attachments which you referred to it as 'facts' in SOME matters of discussions, should not shake our community. If this is the case, then this actually reminds me of a policy or something that is being set to govern this community.

Let me make it straight, if the scopes of the comments are supposed to be within the 'supportive only range' then our community simply would not live for a long time. But if it is supposed to be diverse, then there should be no policies in action. Exception: All of us as the members of this community of faith, we believe that HOLY SCRIPTURES (be it Bible,Quran, Torah) are not questionable because WHO ARE WE TO QUESTION OUR WORD OF GOD? But, the rest of the matter could be and should be questioned because it is all human constructed. Believe me that all that is causing suffering and pain is the later issue, being it THEIR version of 'history', media agendas [Change, Shock & Awe, etc] and the rest.

And I add this as a revisionist, I believe the word faith equals revisionism, for me it equals revisiting yourself. If I or anyone else criticizes someone ideas or makes a comment on a shared piece of information here (for example comments by YB or FF's links) we have to remember that we are not targeting the person himself. Our debate is about the piece of information that the person has shared here and our 'hammering' (as you stated) only deals with that and not the person himself.

Hence, I apologize if I have resented anyone here and with all the respects that I have for all of my brothers and sisters, I have to say that I will continue keeping the faith as I have described it above.

In the meantime Nathandave, if you really favor a change, why not to start it from here brother, this very room?

Keep the faith,
Ali,

NathanDave said...

I never said you caused resentment Ali. The venue does not allow me to be as clear as I would like, so I apologize. What I am saying is that I feel an undercurrent of dogmatism in our discussions regarding certain topics. Honestly, I do not see the difference between us sometimes and the so-called evangelicals who "hammer" home their worldview as the only valid one there is.

You want to warn us to be careful about Obama. I am simply saying wait and see. If he is a deciever, it will come out in due time

Anonymous said...

The game we are playing, called life, has rules which none of the players are privy to when the games begin. Rules and answers are not the same thing; there are no answers because life itself is the answer. The rules on the other hand, can be discovered over time, and codified in books of wisdom. Knowing the rules makes the game more fun, but does not excuse one from playing along. Not knowing the rules could be disastrous, as there are no referees or time outs, and there is most definitely an opposing player in this game. The game also has many levels. The opposing team is known as Darkness, and can be compared to an ‘enemy’ in a war game. To avoid confusion, it is important to understand that Darkness and evil are not one and the same thing, though darkness can turn evil, and can spawn evil. Darkness is a role played by spirits that are balanced, ones that have passed through duality and are able to keep their heads screwed on straight even while concocting all manner of mischief. From their perspective, they are involved in a game too, and it must therefore be just as convincing to them as it is to us, otherwise they would gain sympathy for us and all the troubles they cause. If this realization struck it would then end the game as well. These games are played all over the universe, but rarely are the results as dramatic as they are here on Earth. Like any game, passions and tempers rise, and things can run amuck, and this was the situation when Mr. Bush rode into town on his fake horse. We may count ourselves very lucky that Bush was in incompetent dumbass who created a colossal mess in record time, a feat that one day will be in the Guinness Book of Records. His failure opened the door for better things.

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Ali said...

Previously I brought up Holocaust, you told me Ali don't go into it. We talked on the legitimacy of Isreal, you concluded the debate on yourself. I am warning you about don't fool yourself with the same story every 4 years, you tell me stop it Ali and wait and see. Would you tell me which way I can talk here Nathandave? Would you like to downsize this community? I would be happy if I can help.

Anonymous said...

Well ok ()then mabe you could tell me what you base your beliefs on or where does your information come from if that is not to much to ask?

You speak as though what you say is a matter of fact. Just how did you come to these conclusions?

Thomas

NathanDave said...

Ali, I am certain that my response was measured and non-confrontative. As far as downsizing the community, have no fear, this is likely my last post.

All I ever said was that holocaust denial was dangerous, that it was poison. The evidence for the denial of the holocaust is, in my opinion, unsubstantiated, and the man who produced the videos you wanted us to watch formally denied his own work and repudiated it. Dont twist my words. I also warned you about listening to racist ideas, as a friend, but have no fear Ali, that won't happen again. And the legitmacy of Israel is not a concept I have ever commented on, other than to offer the viewpoint of Jews who are opposed to its existence, so of course I would be open minded on this topic, if you even bothered to read what I wrote(for example, my post on Gog and Magog raises the point that Israel is an NWO deception).

How do you know me so well Ali that you are certain I fool myself every 4 years? That is quite a statement my friend.

Dogmatic thinking is dangerous, and it sees enemies everywhere. Jesus commands us to LOVE EVEN OUR ENEMIES. If you see a conspiracy around every corner, then you will cease to love, and instead live in constant fear and anxiety. I know this, I am alive now, and I wish to live my life as God wants me to. To live in the moment. That is what I plan on doing.

Anonymous said...

NathanDave

Amen to that!

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Anonymous said...

Getting there....

http://www.roguegovernment.com/index.php?news_id=14007

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

Ali said...

I wrote a big reply first, but I deleted it.

Very short:

You go your way, I go mine. We simply can't come together. This is a 'fact'.

Peace.
Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Ali I will be praying for you.
I certainly hope the others here are right & no harm comes to you & your loved ones whether it be by our govt or Isreal.

Thomas

Anonymous said...

Ali has a better chance with Obama. He at least is trying to reach out but hate against Obama on this comment site blinds all of you:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/27/obama.arabia/index.html

Also as I stated further up there are other people that are contributors to this blog so step up to the plate and write your views. It is easy to just be critical of a post in the comment section but it takes courage to actually do the hard work of writing your views for all to view.

young brother said...

Nathandave, I hope you reconsider leaving. Your encouragement has helped me tremendously over the past few years, and especially recently. Thank you! If you do leave, I hope you will stay in touch with me via email.

I sensed exactly what NathanDave tried to express: There is a fighting spirit in here lately, and it's very counter-productive.

Ali, if you intended to warn us about the potential deception of Barack Obama, it has been made. Please honor the disagreement of others. Your position has been very clearly stated.

I hope we can all just take a step back, and allow those who will celebrate to celebrate; and those who are weeping to weep. There is certainly cause enough for both right now, but let's not be too harsh with each other. We've all been through a lot so far, and there's plenty of ground left to cover.

Whatever connection that has been established between us so far is a great threat to the adversary. He would love for it to be destroyed.

Anonymous said...

Hate against Obama? This has nothing to do with Obama.

Quote myself:
"I agree with you completly FF & Ali. I posed a question to all the people at the Is Bush The Anticrist site many years ago that knowing how corrupt our govt is & has been with dems & reps alike, knowing the whole system is the beast, what would you all do if Bush leaves office & a democrat became president? Would you all shout for joy & go back to living your lifes knowing all is well now in Babylon? I would hope the answer is no because no matter who is president of this system the true leaders of it are still in place & Babylon still exists. "

Where did I even use Obama's name?
He just happens to be the Democrat that is president now.

Ali has said the same thing, the true decision makers are still there. Nothing much will change accept Obama is like the whitewash on the whole thing to make it look pretty on the outside. The hate is not for Obama but for the system.

You all talk about loving your enemy but none of you showed any love for Bush who was just a stooge & a puppet but you all want to blame him personaly as if he was the real decision maker like he said.
Bush was just a stupid puppet that didn't care how bad the power brokers made him look & let them have their way.

Obama may be a very good guy but he will do what his masters say or he will be put out of the way, & that itself may serve their purpose.
If you want to FOOL YOURSELF & think he has any real power then go right ahead but do not expect the rest of us to.

Now on the hate sites.
Peter himself commented on the David Duke stuff & agreed with it & posted some links to it himself if I am not mistaken but yet you single out Ali for it.

FF has posted some hatefull stuff herself & I was rebuked for saying anything out against it but you single out Ali, why is this?

I didn't agree with it myself even though there was some truth in it but as Peter says "chew the meat & spit out the bone".
I didn't see you speak out against any of them so why do you attack Ali?

As I said before even though I was mad & being rude & apologized for it, it would seem some people are treated differently then others on here & I still stand by that statment.

Now go get YB to put me back in my place again & you all can congratulate yourselves on your great president who is going to change the world & then go back to sleep in Babylon, I am with Ali on this one.

James 4:7-10
Humility Cures Worldliness

7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.

The reality is God gave the conservatives their savior in Bush & now because he is a fair God he is giving the liberals their savior & both will prove to be false.
I saw that this would happen long ago & warned others but they would not even consider that Bush would ever leave but I knew he would & none would listen.

Thomas

Anonymous said...

A prayer for you Ali

Psalm 119
א ALEPH
1 Blessed are the undefiled in the way,
Who walk in the law of the LORD!
2 Blessed are those who keep His testimonies,
Who seek Him with the whole heart!
3 They also do no iniquity;
They walk in His ways.
4 You have commanded us
To keep Your precepts diligently.
5 Oh, that my ways were directed
To keep Your statutes!
6 Then I would not be ashamed,
When I look into all Your commandments.
7 I will praise You with uprightness of heart,
When I learn Your righteous judgments.
8 I will keep Your statutes;
Oh, do not forsake me utterly!


ב BETH
9 How can a young man cleanse his way?
By taking heed according to Your word.
10 With my whole heart I have sought You;
Oh, let me not wander from Your commandments!
11 Your word I have hidden in my heart,
That I might not sin against You.
12 Blessed are You, O LORD!
Teach me Your statutes.
13 With my lips I have declared
All the judgments of Your mouth.
14 I have rejoiced in the way of Your testimonies,
As much as in all riches.
15 I will meditate on Your precepts,
And contemplate Your ways.
16 I will delight myself in Your statutes;
I will not forget Your word.


ג GIMEL
17 Deal bountifully with Your servant,
That I may live and keep Your word.
18 Open my eyes, that I may see
Wondrous things from Your law.
19 I am a stranger in the earth;
Do not hide Your commandments from me.
20 My soul breaks with longing
For Your judgments at all times.
21 You rebuke the proud—the cursed,
Who stray from Your commandments.
22 Remove from me reproach and contempt,
For I have kept Your testimonies.
23 Princes also sit and speak against me,
But Your servant meditates on Your statutes.
24 Your testimonies also are my delight
And my counselors.


ד DALETH
25 My soul clings to the dust;
Revive me according to Your word.
26 I have declared my ways, and You answered me;
Teach me Your statutes.
27 Make me understand the way of Your precepts;
So shall I meditate on Your wonderful works.
28 My soul melts from heaviness;
Strengthen me according to Your word.
29 Remove from me the way of lying,
And grant me Your law graciously.
30 I have chosen the way of truth;
Your judgments I have laid before me.
31 I cling to Your testimonies;
O LORD, do not put me to shame!
32 I will run the course of Your commandments,
For You shall enlarge my heart.


ה HE
33 Teach me, O LORD, the way of Your statutes,
And I shall keep it to the end.
34 Give me understanding, and I shall keep Your law;
Indeed, I shall observe it with my whole heart.
35 Make me walk in the path of Your commandments,
For I delight in it.
36 Incline my heart to Your testimonies,
And not to covetousness.
37 Turn away my eyes from looking at worthless things,
And revive me in Your way.[a]
38 Establish Your word to Your servant,
Who is devoted to fearing You.
39 Turn away my reproach which I dread,
For Your judgments are good.
40 Behold, I long for Your precepts;
Revive me in Your righteousness.


וWAW
41 Let Your mercies come also to me, O LORD—
Your salvation according to Your word.
42 So shall I have an answer for him who reproaches me,
For I trust in Your word.
43 And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth,
For I have hoped in Your ordinances.
44 So shall I keep Your law continually,
Forever and ever.
45 And I will walk at liberty,
For I seek Your precepts.
46 I will speak of Your testimonies also before kings,
And will not be ashamed.
47 And I will delight myself in Your commandments,
Which I love.
48 My hands also I will lift up to Your commandments,
Which I love,
And I will meditate on Your statutes.


זZAYIN
49 Remember the word to Your servant,
Upon which You have caused me to hope.
50 This is my comfort in my affliction,
For Your word has given me life.
51 The proud have me in great derision,
Yet I do not turn aside from Your law.
52 I remembered Your judgments of old, O LORD,
And have comforted myself.
53 Indignation has taken hold of me
Because of the wicked, who forsake Your law.
54 Your statutes have been my songs
In the house of my pilgrimage.
55 I remember Your name in the night, O LORD,
And I keep Your law.
56 This has become mine,
Because I kept Your precepts.


חHETH
57 You are my portion, O LORD;
I have said that I would keep Your words.
58 I entreated Your favor with my whole heart;
Be merciful to me according to Your word.
59 I thought about my ways,
And turned my feet to Your testimonies.
60 I made haste, and did not delay
To keep Your commandments.
61 The cords of the wicked have bound me,
But I have not forgotten Your law.
62 At midnight I will rise to give thanks to You,
Because of Your righteous judgments.
63 I am a companion of all who fear You,
And of those who keep Your precepts.
64 The earth, O LORD, is full of Your mercy;
Teach me Your statutes.


טTETH
65 You have dealt well with Your servant,
O LORD, according to Your word.
66 Teach me good judgment and knowledge,
For I believe Your commandments.
67 Before I was afflicted I went astray,
But now I keep Your word.
68 You are good, and do good;
Teach me Your statutes.
69 The proud have forged a lie against me,
But I will keep Your precepts with my whole heart.
70 Their heart is as fat as grease,
But I delight in Your law.
71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted,
That I may learn Your statutes.
72 The law of Your mouth is better to me
Than thousands of coins of gold and silver.


יYOD
73 Your hands have made me and fashioned me;
Give me understanding, that I may learn Your commandments.
74 Those who fear You will be glad when they see me,
Because I have hoped in Your word.
75 I know, O LORD, that Your judgments are right,
And that in faithfulness You have afflicted me.
76 Let, I pray, Your merciful kindness be for my comfort,
According to Your word to Your servant.
77 Let Your tender mercies come to me, that I may live;
For Your law is my delight.
78 Let the proud be ashamed,
For they treated me wrongfully with falsehood;
But I will meditate on Your precepts.
79 Let those who fear You turn to me,
Those who know Your testimonies.
80 Let my heart be blameless regarding Your statutes,
That I may not be ashamed.


כKAPH
81 My soul faints for Your salvation,
But I hope in Your word.
82 My eyes fail from searching Your word,
Saying, “When will You comfort me?”
83 For I have become like a wineskin in smoke,
Yet I do not forget Your statutes.
84 How many are the days of Your servant?
When will You execute judgment on those who persecute me?
85 The proud have dug pits for me,
Which is not according to Your law.
86 All Your commandments are faithful;
They persecute me wrongfully;
Help me!
87 They almost made an end of me on earth,
But I did not forsake Your precepts.
88 Revive me according to Your lovingkindness,
So that I may keep the testimony of Your mouth.


לLAMED
89 Forever, O LORD,
Your word is settled in heaven.
90 Your faithfulness endures to all generations;
You established the earth, and it abides.
91 They continue this day according to Your ordinances,
For all are Your servants.
92 Unless Your law had been my delight,
I would then have perished in my affliction.
93 I will never forget Your precepts,
For by them You have given me life.
94 I am Yours, save me;
For I have sought Your precepts.
95 The wicked wait for me to destroy me,
But I will consider Your testimonies.
96 I have seen the consummation of all perfection,
But Your commandment is exceedingly broad.


מMEM
97 Oh, how I love Your law!
It is my meditation all the day.
98 You, through Your commandments, make me wiser than my enemies;
For they are ever with me.
99 I have more understanding than all my teachers,
For Your testimonies are my meditation.
100 I understand more than the ancients,
Because I keep Your precepts.
101 I have restrained my feet from every evil way,
That I may keep Your word.
102 I have not departed from Your judgments,
For You Yourself have taught me.
103 How sweet are Your words to my taste,
Sweeter than honey to my mouth!
104 Through Your precepts I get understanding;
Therefore I hate every false way.


נNUN
105 Your word is a lamp to my feet
And a light to my path.
106 I have sworn and confirmed
That I will keep Your righteous judgments.
107 I am afflicted very much;
Revive me, O LORD, according to Your word.
108 Accept, I pray, the freewill offerings of my mouth, O LORD,
And teach me Your judgments.
109 My life is continually in my hand,
Yet I do not forget Your law.
110 The wicked have laid a snare for me,
Yet I have not strayed from Your precepts.
111 Your testimonies I have taken as a heritage forever,
For they are the rejoicing of my heart.
112 I have inclined my heart to perform Your statutes
Forever, to the very end.


סSAMEK
113 I hate the double-minded,
But I love Your law.
114 You are my hiding place and my shield;
I hope in Your word.
115 Depart from me, you evildoers,
For I will keep the commandments of my God!
116 Uphold me according to Your word, that I may live;
And do not let me be ashamed of my hope.
117 Hold me up, and I shall be safe,
And I shall observe Your statutes continually.
118 You reject all those who stray from Your statutes,
For their deceit is falsehood.
119 You put away all the wicked of the earth like dross;
Therefore I love Your testimonies.
120 My flesh trembles for fear of You,
And I am afraid of Your judgments.


עAYIN
121 I have done justice and righteousness;
Do not leave me to my oppressors.
122 Be surety for Your servant for good;
Do not let the proud oppress me.
123 My eyes fail from seeking Your salvation
And Your righteous word.
124 Deal with Your servant according to Your mercy,
And teach me Your statutes.
125 I am Your servant;
Give me understanding,
That I may know Your testimonies.
126 It is time for You to act, O LORD,
For they have regarded Your law as void.
127 Therefore I love Your commandments
More than gold, yes, than fine gold!
128 Therefore all Your precepts concerning all things
I consider to be right;
I hate every false way.


פPE
129 Your testimonies are wonderful;
Therefore my soul keeps them.
130 The entrance of Your words gives light;
It gives understanding to the simple.
131 I opened my mouth and panted,
For I longed for Your commandments.
132 Look upon me and be merciful to me,
As Your custom is toward those who love Your name.
133 Direct my steps by Your word,
And let no iniquity have dominion over me.
134 Redeem me from the oppression of man,
That I may keep Your precepts.
135 Make Your face shine upon Your servant,
And teach me Your statutes.
136 Rivers of water run down from my eyes,
Because men do not keep Your law.


צTSADDE
137 Righteous are You, O LORD,
And upright are Your judgments.
138 Your testimonies, which You have commanded,
Are righteous and very faithful.
139 My zeal has consumed me,
Because my enemies have forgotten Your words.
140 Your word is very pure;
Therefore Your servant loves it.
141 I am small and despised,
Yet I do not forget Your precepts.
142 Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness,
And Your law is truth.
143 Trouble and anguish have overtaken me,
Yet Your commandments are my delights.
144 The righteousness of Your testimonies is everlasting;
Give me understanding, and I shall live.


קQOPH
145 I cry out with my whole heart;
Hear me, O LORD!
I will keep Your statutes.
146 I cry out to You;
Save me, and I will keep Your testimonies.
147 I rise before the dawning of the morning,
And cry for help;
I hope in Your word.
148 My eyes are awake through the night watches,
That I may meditate on Your word.
149 Hear my voice according to Your lovingkindness;
O LORD, revive me according to Your justice.
150 They draw near who follow after wickedness;
They are far from Your law.
151 You are near, O LORD,
And all Your commandments are truth.
152 Concerning Your testimonies,
I have known of old that You have founded them forever.


רRESH
153 Consider my affliction and deliver me,
For I do not forget Your law.
154 Plead my cause and redeem me;
Revive me according to Your word.
155 Salvation is far from the wicked,
For they do not seek Your statutes.
156 Great are Your tender mercies, O LORD;
Revive me according to Your judgments.
157 Many are my persecutors and my enemies,
Yet I do not turn from Your testimonies.
158 I see the treacherous, and am disgusted,
Because they do not keep Your word.
159 Consider how I love Your precepts;
Revive me, O LORD, according to Your lovingkindness.
160 The entirety of Your word is truth,
And every one of Your righteous judgments endures forever.


שSHIN
161 Princes persecute me without a cause,
But my heart stands in awe of Your word.
162 I rejoice at Your word
As one who finds great treasure.
163 I hate and abhor lying,
But I love Your law.
164 Seven times a day I praise You,
Because of Your righteous judgments.
165 Great peace have those who love Your law,
And nothing causes them to stumble.
166 LORD, I hope for Your salvation,
And I do Your commandments.
167 My soul keeps Your testimonies,
And I love them exceedingly.
168 I keep Your precepts and Your testimonies,
For all my ways are before You.


ת TAU
169 Let my cry come before You, O LORD;
Give me understanding according to Your word.
170 Let my supplication come before You;
Deliver me according to Your word.
171 My lips shall utter praise,
For You teach me Your statutes.
172 My tongue shall speak of Your word,
For all Your commandments are righteousness.
173 Let Your hand become my help,
For I have chosen Your precepts.
174 I long for Your salvation, O LORD,
And Your law is my delight.
175 Let my soul live, and it shall praise You;
And let Your judgments help me.
176 I have gone astray like a lost sheep;
Seek Your servant,
For I do not forget Your commandments.

young brother said...

I can't believe what keeps happening here. This is ridiculous. Call it what you want, Thomas; your behavior begs for rebuke. I'm getting fed up with
some of the childish, abusive, self-righteous behavior that keeps resurfacing here, like a spirit that possesses different people (including myself) at different times. What good does it do for us to undercut and verbally assault one another? Are we loving one another when we are trying to put each other down?

We will never work together if our need for "a good debate" outweighs our need to be respectful. What good are we to God or anyone when we are involved in a power-struggle of opinions? Whatever happened to respecting other people's stance?

I did have love for George Bush, thank you; I hope he can repent and confess his crimes before death. When I saw him face the crowd of 2 million angry people, like a child with his hand caught in a cookie jar, I felt strong pity for him. For the record.

If people are not respectful here they will share the responsibility of this blog's demise.

NathanDave said...

YB,

You have my email. Id like to start a group on Yahoo. We can discuss the details if you have an interest. Just let me know brother.

Anonymous said...

ND started this but you say nothing to him. I was more respectful then ND was & I said nothing & respected your opinion & his & kept my whole opinion to myself but ND did not respect mine & Ali's opinion. So why don't you rebuke him? Since you didn't rebuke him I did but I wrote that before your post & when I posted it yours was there but I still stand by it.
I want to say a lot more but I am biting my tounge.

Please tell me where I was disrespectful if you would please. Is it because I stood up for Ali or because I do not agree with you & him.
Did I call anyone any names or is it because I called ND out on singling out Ali on posting hate sites.
Please inform me because I was trying to be as respectfull as possible but when you are calling someone out on their hypocrisy it is hard for it to come out nice.
Should I have just let it slide because he is your friend?
Again am I the only one deserving of your wrath?

Thomas

Anonymous said...

It would seem that this blog has already met it's demise since it is no longer the end times.

YB do you remember when I talked about Jonah & that it could be 3000 years before Jesus's return? You scalded me saying why would you want to wait 1000 more years & that the world was going to hell & was in need of his return?

Is everything ok now & maybe another 1000 years is ok now that Bush has left office?

Thomas

young brother said...

Thomas, I hope that you get something beneficial from being here. I didn't rebuke NathanDave because I happen to agree with what he said, point by point. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Ali was being defensive when ND was making a general statement (a caution), and the argument that transpired is easy enough for anyone to read.

This blog was an experiment in group effort. But what is going on now is akin to trench warfare. Time is too precious, and the benefits of the fire we have just passed to are too valuable to waste on this semantic garbage.

Thomas, I'm going to be blunt: I don't like your spirit; you rub me the wrong way. It seems that you don't hesitate to pour your judgments on other people who take a stand for their beliefs, without regard for their feelings, or the way that you present yourself. You seem to be a very cold, but zealous person. I hope your zeal melts your coldness, and you can have a greater sense of empathy in the outcome. But I do not dismiss you as hopeless. It is not my place to say when someone is beyond hope.

Railing accusations do not come from the spirit of Truth, but they are absolutely inspired by the Adversary.

I hope you will choose a side, and stick to it. Are you going to be a kind person who is sincerely seeking the way of love and peace and understanding, or are you going to be a self-appointed vigilante of God's judgment? That choice is yours, has been yours and will continue to be yours. But if you are not merciful to your brothers and sisters, you will not receive the mercy of God.

God does not show favoritism. I pray that I am not the kind of servant who is found drinking, eating in gluttony, and beating my fellow servants when the master returns. We should all pray for that, and beware of the tendency for that sort of behavior that lies within us all.

faithful forever said...

We can talk about the weather while we are taking a more leveled and loving approach to discussing the really important matters at hand and pray for our community. I am not willing to give up on what we have been blessed with (each other and this haven (my refuge) in a confounding world) quite so easily.

Another winter storm wreaking havoc:

http://news.aol.com/article/winter-storm/318317

Let's move on to the more important matters and may our Lord be with us. I believe we are in endtime as foretold and it is an amazing thing to witness but it is also a heavy load. Many hands make light the load and for this we need each other.

US troops are being diverted from Iraq to Afghanistan and the US peace envoy arrives in Israel tomorrow. It is more than likely Netanyahu will win the Israeli election and I don't thing he will bring good tidings. Time is short. Too short for bickering. I ask us all who wins when we do. The division makes it quite apparent. I apologize and ask for forgiveness in adding to the division.

I would like to discuss the article Annon posted that shows a new bill called the 'National Emergency Centers Act' because it involves six main military centers across the US. I repost it with thanks to Annon.

http://www.roguegovernment.com/index.php?news_id=14007

In love, hope and faith.
Love to all - always. In His name, I pray.

Ali said...

I am glad to see that eventually the reality of our community popped out.

Thomas,
Thank you brother for your wonderful prayer. I needed it.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Hi all
Lets pause for a moment and examine ourselves. I don't think this is the time to allow the spirit of bitterness to invade our lives. The early Christians had differences and there is nothing wrong with having that today too. But that should not give the enemy the chance to laugh all the way to the bottom of his pit. We sometimes focus on things that are really less important than the big picture. Where is Love? We claim to be spiritually some where but our lack of love to one another and the bitterness that come with it speak differently. Whats going on? Self examination is needed.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

http://www.boris-johnson.com/2009/01/27/quest-to-extradite-harmless-hacker-gary-mckinnon/

NathanDave said...

Good advice anon. I still diagree with many of the posters here, but I apologize for taking it personally. Please accept my apolology for not remaining detached personally from the conversaiton. I tried.

However, I need a break. If some of us cannot tell the difference between George Bush and Barack Obama, then what else is there to say? Perhaps the purpose we were brought together for, to fight the Bush regime, has passed on.

Ill likely be lurking. God bless you all. Ali, I hope whatever troubles you my friend is settled in your mind. I know that you are troubled and angry, and I wish you nothing but God's grace and peace. Thomas, I wish you the same.

To YB, Sandra, FF, Anon, Peter, take care. I know that you have all helped me grow in faith. Sandra, you have the heart of a leader, you are compassionate and patient. I see great things for you, and I hope you are active in your community because I am certain you would be an inspiration of hope.

Take care.

Anonymous said...

Well YB I pray that you stop being double-minded.

If my spirit which is the truth rubs you wrong then it is because it hits to close to home for you. Maybe you should step back & take a close look at yourself as I will but everything I said is true & although Ali himself took the high road & deleted his long post & cut it short I do not think so highly of myself to tell the truth even though the truth will hurt someone because it is for their own good.

Can you tell me why it was ok for Peter to post stuff from David Duke but not Ali?

Can you tell me why it is ok for FF to post sites with anti-semetic talk in them but not Ali?

Can you tell me why ND singled out Ali but remained silent towards the others?

Can you tell me why when I was warning FF about such things I was being hatefull & yet when ND does the same to Ali he is being loving?

ND has been ranting on this thread from the start talking about how people were attacking {} when I saw no one attacking him unless my questions to him which he never answered were considered attacks.
I do not think that when someone comes in & starts talking all kinds of different doctrines that it is wrong to ask were he came up with these doctrines.

He said people as in plural were attacking you about worshiping Obama when the only person I saw do that was Dan & we all know Dan is just spinning your words around.

When I said what scares me is people who think Obama is crist I clearly refered to the anonymous above & I was not alone in thinking thats what he meant because that is how he worded it then came back & said maybe you should read more carefully but it was not our fault for reading into it what he clearly implied.

ND was being overzealous in his defense of Obama as if it was a personal attack on Obama but was clearly a warning that the anticrist system is still in place & to not be fooled by the whitewashing they are doing but everyone took it as a personal attack.

I sat patiently by as this was all going on but with ND's last remarks I thought he went to far & told him so. I know too well how it feels to be unfairly singled out here on this site by all you loving (add sarcasm)people here.

Now I have said my last on it because I do not agree with your statment against me nor Ali & I will not agree with it so whatever else you have to say about it I will not even bother reading unless it is an apology.

I was humble enough to apologize to you & FF when I was wrong & I will not apologize for being right & defending my brother when he is wrongfully singled out & attacked.

Thomas

Ali the prayer was from God. I was merely the messanger, you can thank him & I hope you do not let all this keep you from posting here.

Anonymous said...

I am sorry ND but posted the other post while you were posting & accept your apology but I would disagree with you that just because Bush is gone that the battle is over. I never thought the battle was against Bush & that is precisly what me & Ali are trying to say.

It may be over for us now(which I still do not believe)but it is definatly not over for Ali who has to live with the thought that his country could be bombed at any moment just like Iraq & I understand his concern & that is why my prayers go out to him.

Thomas

Ali said...

Since the post that I wrote (declared) PEACE here, I have been receiving too many *compliments* that I hadn't been assigned in my whole personal life before. Thank you Nathandave & YB for all the compliments!

I leave all this to the God the merciful, because he is the only one with the verdict.

Thomas,

You and me tried our best to make it clear that when Obama said in his inauguration that "We will not apologize from anyone for our way of life," what this statement really connotes.

My brother Thomas, the warning has been given. Their fate now is their own. I really appreciate that you supported this concept. Now, I believe we can proceed because so much is happening which we have been distracted from. So lets don't look back.

It is raining here.

Sandra said...

Thomas,
Ali did accuse others on here with this statement addressed to me which in my humble opinion accused me of worshipping Obama:

Sandra,

"I had hoped a tremendous luck for you and our American friends in doing your most important socio-political duty which was voting but I never hoped to see the veneration of a politician in our community of faith as some of us did it here. " That was twisting our words to mean something that none of us said if you read over the comments.

I too can be bitter at the history of what had happened to my people but I chose a different path of love and compassion. I was asked one time "why are you not bitter and hateful on what happened to your people?' I reply "because Jesus taught us all to forgive and I can not hold onto bitterness." He just shook his head and walked away. Also Thomas I have no hate for Bush the man just his polices. I went to see the movie "W" and I had pity for him at the end and I too was saddened by all the booing that was done at the ceremony. Nobody here said the system was not corrupt. I have warned others to get out of her as much as possible. The corrupt world is dominated by money and greed and when you get out of it, you are free and can walk gentle on the earth and not compromise your beliefs for the all mighty dollar. Governments follow money, property and power over people. Jesus frees us from the system if we follow him and take off the shackles that bind us.

I saw Nathandave as agreeing with Ali on a lot of issues during this discussion and Ali is the one that brought up the past discussion of hate groups not Nathandave so I saw Nathandave respond to that.

I too will be leaving this group for a break. Nathandave and YB you have helped me so much in my walk. Thank you so much for spreading the word of our Lord and Savior. I have nothing but respect for you and wish you the best.

Let the Lords love and compassion shine on all.

Anonymous said...

Many decades after the war in the Pacific ended, Japanese soldiers were discovered on remote islands still defending their positions with guns loaded and cocked. The belligerent nations had long settled their differences and were fully engaged in an extensive and robust trade. Names like Toyota and Mitsubishi were household names in America by then, not because they feared the weapons they once produced, but because millions of Americans were driving the automobiles they manufactured. By the same token, when Mr. Bush was doing his Antichrist shtick, it was wise to bring this to the attention of the general population, who were pretty much asleep, and were off on multiple wild goose chases trying to identify the AC and where he would appear. Few then realized they had actually voted for him (and many still don’t), and that he was already well ensconced in the most prestigious political address on the planet. There was cause for alarm. Steven H. was on the forefront of this understanding, and was one who elevated the discourse beyond mere idle grouse. However, once he figured out the battle was won, he handed in his weapons and returned to civilian life, so to speak. Now we have the very model of civility and political astuteness holding the same office, one who has led an exemplary life of service to fellow humans, has graduated Cum Laude from one of the most esteemed educational institutions known to man, and has demonstrated a willingness in word and deed to reverse virtually everything the AC sought to foist on this planet, all in his first week in office. And still the grousing continues. It does make one wonder just what qualifications would satisfy, and if it is even possible for anyone, Christ included, to yank these unfortunate disbelievers from their aging foxholes. The man of sin has left the building people, wake up! If one wishes to contribute to a useful dialogue, exercise some discipline and try eliminating the words “I”, “me”, and “you” from what is written, and then it will become amply clear just how much the ego has been involved. And for goodness sake, stop whining about whether someone is worshipping Obama, it is OK to just like him if it is not possible to be devoted to what he stands for.

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Anonymous said...

Sandra,

The answer to your question is yes.

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Sandra said...

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Thanks for answering my question and will take your advice which is a good one. Was taught that in school but forgot it.

Bye and peace to all.

Anonymous said...

Sandra I certainly did not see it that way I went through the whole thread & am amazed how this all happened.

venerate:admire,adore,appreciate,approve,cherish,esteem,honor,regard,respect,revere,worship.

I took this out of a dictionary. It would seem to me you all read into the word somthing I did not. You all certainly did venerate(approve,honor, regard & or respect) him in my thoughts but I did not read into that as worship. What I do not understand is why you all did.

I understand were Ali was coming from because I myself have felt censored on here. That certain things are not to be talked about, at least not talked about by certain people.

I think if everyone re-reads this thread you will see this was all a complete misunderstanding by everyone & things got heated & things were said that shouldn't have been including by myself & I apologize for that.

Thomas

Anonymous said...

Well ()I would like to point out that yes Bush was an anticrist & is gone but then there were other anticrists that resided in that same office(& in other countries,Hitler for example) & they left also only to be replaced by another one in time because the system still stands. I am not saying Obama is one of them but as long as the system is in place there will be another one so forgive me for not being sold on the fact that there will actually be any real change.
The way I see it is when they say change they mean they are changing to a new front in their war against humanity.

It is funny you mention the Japanese because in their doctrine of war they fight war on 2 fronts.
The actual physical battle & economic warfare. They never really surenderd fully & continued the economic war & in my opinion won it. They own more of America than Americans.

I for one do not see the kingdom of God here yet & untill I do I will continue on.

Just my humble opinion.
Now let the stone throwing begin(just joking I hope)

Thomas

Anonymous said...

Left Reflections on Barack Obama's Not-So Non-Ideological Inaugural Address

http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/20356

Ali said...

"Now let the stone throwing begin," LOL!

"A day without a laugh is a wasted day." - Charles Chaplin

We never had any Thomas. At least you brought us a smile my brother. Thank you.

Smile though your heart is aching
Smile even though its breaking
When there are clouds in the sky, you'll get by
If you smile with your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
You'll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu-rLA4POkI&feature=related

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

It seems there are those that think we have nothing to look forward to but an endless series of Antichrists, and then we die. Life’s a bitch! The only thing worse than the last one, would be one that actually destroys the planet. If it is true that Obama is an AC, and will wipe out humanity while at the same time providing medical care for everyone, stopping torture, eliminating unwarranted detention, halting the war in Iraq, making friends with Iran, lifting Africa out of poverty…etc., etc., then there is no hope for this planet, because this would mean that evil has evolved to be cleverer and more powerful than the Light. This scenario may exist in science-fiction, but not in reality. It certainly would not explain the human wrecking ball and nincompoop Bush that preceded him. Anyone that thinks God would create such a maze of twisted enigmas just doesn’t get it. Malevolent spirits cannot just steamroller over a person’s thoughts and do as they please, they need to gain the mark’s confidence first, which in the case of Mr. Bush was a cakewalk. Bush was a squishy born-again fundamentalist, at least that is what he claims himself to be, though it is doubtful even this is true. He was in fact a product of generational spiritual dumbing down, beginning with his grandfather. Any voice he heard in his head he attributed to God speaking to him, confident that God would not mislead the prez. Boy was he wrong. God is no respecter of persons, without spiritual attainment even the President of the US is just another Joe Bloe. We can all probably agree he doesn’t hear those voices anymore.

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Anonymous said...

So the tribulation is done? I hardley noticed it.

Psalm 91:7-8
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
8 Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

Yes I did see the reward of the wicked in the bailout. They were well rewarded.

Psalm 110:1
1 The LORD said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”

Thats funny I do not see his enemys as his footstol yet either.

1 Thessalonians 5:3
For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.


1 Corinthians 15:50-58
Our Final Victory
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”
55 “ O Death, where is your sting?
O Hades, where is your victory?”

56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

Why are you so concerned in this beast system of man & it's survival?

Matthew 16:21-23
Jesus Predicts His Death and Resurrection

21 From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day.
22 Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!”
23 But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”

I do not think so. The others may buy your new age(NWO) of man but as for me I will wait on Gods kingdom.

Thomas

Anonymous said...

Read what you will into another's words.

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Anonymous said...

Daniel 11:40-45

The Northern King’s Conquests

40 “At the time of the end the king of the South shall attack him; and the king of the North shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter the countries, overwhelm them, and pass through. 41 He shall also enter the Glorious Land, and many countries shall be overthrown; but these shall escape from his hand: Edom, Moab, and the prominent people of Ammon. 42 He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 He shall have power over the treasures of gold and silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt; also the Libyans and Ethiopians shall follow at his heels. 44 But news from the east and the north shall trouble him; therefore he shall go out with great fury to destroy and annihilate many. 45 And he shall plant the tents of his palace between the seas and the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and no one will help him.

Daniel 12:1-3
Prophecy of the End Time
1 “At that time Michael shall stand up,
The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.
2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
Some to everlasting life,
Some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3 Those who are wise shall shine
Like the brightness of the firmament,
And those who turn many to righteousness
Like the stars forever and ever.

Anonymous said...

The convictions of cut-and-paste.

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Anonymous said...

So now you mock the word of God?

Better to stand on his word than on my own percieved wisdom.

Anonymous said...

Bereishis 5769
“And it came to pass at the end of days, that Kayin brought from the fruit of the ground, an offering to Hashem.
And also Hevel brought from the firstborn of his flock and their fat.” (4:3)
The Zohar (Bereishis 54a) speaks about Adam's two sons Kayin and Hevel. It states that Kayin came from the left side,
from the side of tumah, and Hevel came from the right side, the side of taharah. The name "kayin" comes from the
word "kein," nest, a nest of evil habitations – demons and spirits from the unclean side. When Kayin and Hevel brought
offerings, each brought from his own side:
Rabbi Shimon said: "And it came to pass at the end of days [Kayin brought from the fruit of the ground an
offering to Hashem]" (Bereishis 4:3). What is "mikeitz yamim"? This is the end of all flesh. And who is this?
The angel of death. And Kayin brought his offering from that "keitz yamim". There is a hint to this in the
words, for it says, "mikeitz yamim" and not "mikeitz yamin". And therefore it says regarding Daniel (Daniel
12:13): "And you, go to the End, and stand by your portion." He said to him: To the keitz hayamim or to the
keitz hayamin? He said to him: To the keitz hayamin. But Kayin brought from the keitz hayamim.
The Zohar seems to say that there are two Ends, one from the right, clean side and one from the unclean side. Daniel
asked the angel which one he should go to, and the angel replied, to the one on the right.
For seven hundred years, Jews studied the Zohar and did not know the meaning of this passage. Now, unfortunately,
we know. We are living in the time of the “keitz hayamim” – the false end of the exile presented by the angel of death,
the Satan.
Just as the Satan came to the Jews at the end of the forty days of Moses’ absence and “mixed up the world,” showing
them a vision of Moses dead and convincing them to worship a golden calf, so too the Satan in our century has turned
over the entire world in order to bring us the Zionist state. His goal is to convince the Jews that their original hopes of
Divine redemption are dead and now they must throw their lot with the state.
Let us emulate Daniel and wait only for the keitz hayamin, the true end of exile promised in the Torah!

faithful forever said...

Greetings all,

I wait for the New Jerusalem prophesized about in the Old and New Testaments.

At least a million people have no power tonight across the US and times are getting harder and harder for people to endure. The economic stimulus package has been passed I believe and many say that it will collapse the dollar making the current recession a cake walk. Everyday there are thousands of layoffs handed out and much deeper suffering experienced in many places around the world, and we quivel amongst ourselves over our differences. What a sad state of affairs and I suppose this sight is not exempt from the trials brought on by this world. I hold all in my prayers and my heart as always and that will never change.

Major caterpillar infestation in Liberia and they ain't the cute and fuzzy kind either. They threaten all their crops and a state of emergency has been declared:

http://news.aol.com/article/caterpillar-infestation-in-liberia/317187

Peace in His name.
Love to all.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

faithful forever said...

The 'cease fire' in Gaza seems to be coming to an end:

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Israeli_warplane_bombs_Gaza_Egypt_b_01282009.html

Ali said...

FF,

Israel wants peace in its terms, and its terms are that West Bank [and Qaza] should belong to their states. -Professor Norman Finkelstein

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2009/01/norman-finkelstein-israel-is-satanic.html

My beloved sister, thank you for giving us the strength to keep looking for the truth always.

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Ali said...

The Holocaust Industry !

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/content.php?pg=3


Thomas,

Do you have any record available regrading professor Norman Finkelstein in whether he has been part of any clan, hate group, terrorist organization, KKK, KFC! etc? or whether he has ever flown OVER Iran? I mean he has to be something because you know, he has to ! [You know what I mean Thomas, don't you?]


Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Vayechi 5769
And Yaakov called to his sons, and he said, “Gather together and I will tell you what will happen to you in the
end of days.” (49:1)
Our Sages teach that when the Mishkan was first completed, Moshe Rabbeinu set it up and took it down every day for
seven days. On the eighth day, he set it up and left it up (Rashi on Bamidbar 7:1). Rabbi Avraham Mordechai Alter, the
Gerrer Rebbe (1866-1948), asked: Why did he have to take apart the Mishkan each day? He answered that Moshe’s
actions symbolized the seven Temples that were built and destroyed: the Mishkan in the desert, the Mishkan at Gilgal,
the Tabernacle at Shilo, the Tabernacle of Nov, the Tabernacle of Givon, the Temple of Solomon and the Second
Temple. The eighth day symbolized the eighth Temple, which will be built by G-d Himself and will never be
destroyed. Moshe wanted to teach us that anything built by human hands will ultimately not last.
It is possible that the Zionists will one day try to build a Temple, but we must not let that weaken our faith in the least.
Rabbi Yaakov Teitelbaum related that his grandfather heard Rabbi Israel of Ryzhin say over 150 years ago: "Jews, you
must know that before the coming of the messiah, a fire will come down from heaven like the fire that came down for
Elijah the prophet on Mount Carmel (I Kings 18:38). But there will be a big difference: then the fire came down for
Eliyahu Hanavi, but in the future before the coming of the messiah, it will come down for the prophets of the Baal. And
Jews will have to climb up sheer walls to remain with their faith."
Rabbi Israel of Ryzhin continued: The only solution for a Jew to stay safe from heresy at that time will be to stick
together with other believing Jews. This is what Yaakov Avinu told his children, “Gather together and I will tell you
what will happen to you in the end of days.” The word “happen” could also be translated as “cold”, just as we find in
the words “asher karcha baderech” (Devarim 25:18) which Rashi translates as “he [Amalek] made it cold for you on
the way.” In the end of days, when Amalek tries with all his might to “cool off” the Jewish people and lead them astray
from their faith, the only road to safety is to gather together and discuss the true emunah. (Kol Yaakov pp. 81-82)

Anonymous said...

Yes FF

Things are changing at a faster pace ever.
There was no cease fire in Gaza to begin with. It was just a break for more battle plans from both sides. The warm up has indeed ended and we just wait and see what and where the next phase will be carried out.
The world is done with the economy. It doesn't seem to get better any time soon.

Sadly so much is happening and we as a community seem to have allowed the enemy to rob the joy that our faith and the love of God given us. Remember, we made our adversary victorious, and he laughs all the way to the bottomless pit of hell. My prayer goes for each and everyone in this community to come back to our senses and once again fan the fire of love.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon.

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Laird/nov202008.html

And they summed it up: "It is not like before." I guess the worst may be yet to come.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/542.html

Ali said...

Barak's (Israeli Minister) way of fashioning his image :

" they should be whacked when they're on the toilet " !

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1059541.html

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Yes I know what you mean Ali but please do not go there.

When I first came back here I posted to bring you all back together because an argument was driving you all apart. Now I find myself in the middle of the argument & instead of bringing you all together I have driven a wedge between you all driving you farther apart.

I do not regret coming to your defense but I regret taking sides & not bringing you two back together but driving you two apart.
Sometimes in ones zeal to defend someone they do not realize they are attacking another.

Please forgive me ND because instead of uniting I divided the two of you.

I still agree with Ali & didn't see were you all thought he was saying you all were worshipping Obama so I did not understand why everyone was against Ali.
I think you all misunderstood what he was saying because I did not see it as saying that.

I still think Ali was treated differently than others. I happen to agree with his stance on the holocaust to a point.
I believe it is exagerated & exploited to further a political agenda.
The nazis killed many in their death camps, they wern't discriminate in who they killed.
They killed jews, gypsies, slavs, poles, communists, gays, mentally impaired & anyone else they did not like.
I think it should be open for discussion because it is the crutch & excuse the zionist state uses in its war of genocide against the Palestinions.

On the other hand FF( and I mean nothing against you so please do not take this personly)posted sites with a true anti-semetic theme & we were all told to take the truth (which there was)out & disregard the rest & never a word said agaist it, which to me is hypocritical.
Some of that stuff is no different than stuff like the site Sandra posted on the Quran & muslims.
There are plenty of sites out there that try to villify muslims & jews alike.
I think these sites,although containing some truth should be avoided just like the David Duke stuff. Again though even though Peter posted some of Dukes stuff no one said anything about it except Sandra who said that it was all rotten when Peter said "chew the meat & spit out the bone". Again to me hypocricy.

When I came back I was going to use a different name because I did not want YB to hold are past differences against me but it seems he just can't get past it & still holds a grudge because in his eyes I can seem to do no right.
When I posted the link to Esdra he thanked ND with no mention to me who actually posted the link & told him it was a good read. I didn't need his thanks but I though it odd to thank ND & ignore me so I guess he still holds a grudge against me eventhough I have seen things from his point of view & come to agree with him on some things I didn't before but he has refused to even consider my point of view so maybe it would be best if I move along also.
I am sure you know these words well YB, hopefully you will consider them.

Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity.
Calculate what we will or will not tolerate.
Desperate to control all and everything.
Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen.

Clutch it like a cornerstone. Otherwise it all comes down.
Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end.
Clutch it like a cornerstone. Otherwise it all comes down.
Terrified of being wrong. Ultimatum prison cell.

Saturn ascends, choose one or ten. Hang on or be humbled again.

Clutch it like a cornerstone. Otherwise it all comes down.
Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end.
Saturn ascends, comes round again.
Saturn ascends, the one, the ten. Ignorant to the damage done.

Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity.
Calculate what we will or will not tolerate.
Desperate to control all and everything.
Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen.

Wear the grudge like a crown. Desperate to control.
Unable to forgive. And we're sinking deeper.

Defining, confining, controlling, and we're sinking deeper.

Saturn comes back around to show you everything
Let's you choose what you will not see and then
Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again
Spits you out like a child, light and innocent.

Saturn comes back around. Lifts you up like a child or
Drags you down like a stone
To consume you till you choose to let this go.

Give away the stone.
Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor.
Give away the stone.
Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold.
Let go.



To Pegylus(or whatever your name is)you think your ideas are new & original but they are not. I know all to well your beliefs. They are as old as the tower of Babel & are the religion of man. I do not agree with you but you are free to persuade others into your beliefs.
I on the other hand am free to persuade others not to follow you & your beliefs.

You see in the begining we were once with God & the angels in the kingdom of God but we rebelled against God & were cast out to this planet & into these flesh & blood prison cells.
Through Jesus we have a chance to be redeemed because he loved us so that he came down in the flesh & risked his own eternal soul(because if while down here had he sinned we all would have been doomed)to return us to God's kingdom. Jesus came to retrieve the lost sheep. He was not talking about the lost tribes of Isreal.
Redeem:recoup,recover,regain,retrieve

That is why we were all born into sin because we all have rebelled against God & we all need to repent to return to God.

You can help build the kingdom of Satan here on earth but I look toward returning to the kingdom of God.
I can post many passages to back up my words but you do not respect the word of others as you say so I give it to you in my own words.

Thomas

Anonymous said...

If we cling to a negative paradigm, it will cling to us. What some call New Age is merely the label given to emphasize the manner in which we see ourselves, either as a conflict between you and me, or as co-operative action we share between us.
If even a small post breaks down to the following usage:

You 42
I 36
Not 16
We 10
Me 7
Us 2

Then clearly the ego is ruling the dialogue. The wedge spoken of is of no consequence; do not flatter yourself to think it is anything more than an annoying harangue. It is the work of the weak to only quote the words of others, at length, and claim it their philosophy also. Say what you have to say, and let the words stand by their own power.

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Ali said...

In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

" O ye who believe! Persevere in patience and constancy; vie in such perseverance; strengthen each other; and fear God; that ye may prosper. "
-Holy Quran (3:200)


Dear My beloved brothers NathanDave, YB and my beloved sister Sandra ,

Aside from the fact that I have been such an irritating and annoying person in this weblog, I kindly request you to practice patience against me, hopefully, some day I would realize how much irrational and cruel I have been in regard to my friends. I am confident that I can revise my positions and my attitudes as I have always been wishing to do so in my life. As I have said before , I never, EVER, wanted to or wished to blame, accuse or mock any individual and/or any individual's comment or belief here. However, now that I have realized that we are dealing with a wide range of sensitivities, I assure you all that I will put as much concern as possible on considering this scope of sensitivities.

I am sorry to see that, I , have caused this much of misunderstanding and divergence here.

Respect, Peace and Love.
Your little brother,
Ali.

young brother said...

I needed to take a day off from reading this blog to clear my head and get perspective.

FF, Thank you for trying to change the subject! God bless you!

Ali, you are my brother. We can all get hot under the collar at times. I am sorry if I came across as harsh to you (and Thomas, and FF). It could very well be that Barack Obama is carrying the torch, and will go down a dark and twisted path, like Bush. I think it is too early for any of us to pronounce his soul as guilty or innocent. Considering what he has accomplished in his first week, I am still inclined to hope that he is working for the good side.

It would have taken a miracle for him to completely stop the downward momentum that this country is in all at once. Since he is not Jesus, and no one will get to see Jesus until his feet successfully prepare the way for him, we should not expect powerful miracles from any one source too soon. We shouldn't judge too harshly, or too quickly, lest we judge incorrectly. "Be wise as serpents, but gentle as doves".

We have a lot of work ahead of us; a lot of ground to cover. We won't wake up one morning to a magically restored Kingdom of God on Earth that required no effort on our parts. What we should be focusing on is simple: God's counter-offensive. The light will be restored to the earth, that is surely promised. The most important thing is that we believe that this is not only possible, it is our obligation. God planned restoration through faithful people.

This system is crumbling; it's judgment has been pronounced, and will not be delayed. But God will not allow this earth to be destroyed before it's time. All of the elemental burning and destruction that is in the Earth's future will happen after a 1000 year reign of peace under Christ, and another rebellion. We have to remember that. We have to believe that the World will be destroyed, but the Earth is to be delivered.

After the Antichrist reigns, the restoration begins. That is the ultimate timeline. Hope for it! Believe it! Make it a reality! Whether Barack Obama ends up being for it, or against it, nothing can stop it. The power is in the Light, not the darkness.

Thomas, I understand that it may be easy for you to see me as a hypocrite. I hope you can forgive my human weaknesses, while remaining faithful to the self-examination that you promised. Ask yourself this: Are you treating me differently than others? Isn't that your pet peeve?

Also, since, "Love does not keep a record of wrongs", and you seem to be prepared for me to rain down my record of your wrongs on you...is it wise for you to share such a long list of your pent up grievances? I honestly thought that ND had shared from 2 Esdras. Which post was that on? Thank you for the share, it was a very valuable discovery. I love Tool, and that is a very good song. I don't think it applies to me, though.

(), I really appreciate your insight; very keen!

Sandra, A break will do you good, it did me! For the record, I completely agree with NathanDave about your leadership capabilities. Your tribe is very fortunate to have you, and so are we!

Anonymous said...

http://www.sfbg.com/39/24/news_homeless.html

Stay blessed and keep looking up

Annon

Ali said...

YB, I am glad you are back again and I invite you and the rest of the community to hear this story:

Last night an old friend of mine called me from Australia. She was really happy. She told me that she had recently got a citizenship. I told her, "how amazing but how come so fast??" She said "Ali, because I am no longer a Muslim!"

When I hanged up the phone, I found myself in a vacuity I never had been before, I was thinking isn't that being a Muslim, Christian and a Jew was supposed to be only a title for "Submission to the word of God only"? Then how come people can get citizenship with it???? I am getting a headache.

And watch this video too:

Muslims Are Turning to Christianity in Iran!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQBzdUOct_E

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

Education, as we understand it in human terms, is about learning new things, because we come to it from the position of ignorance. Spiritual education, on the other hand, is about unlearning the things we think we know, shattering the illusions of how we perceive things, and learning to see things as they really are. Unlike the education system we are familiar with, where the teachers are ever present and depart us when we are done, spiritual teachers teach us while they are on sabbatical and join us when we are done. In the interim, we are left, as it were, in a large unruly classroom where the better students are expected to keep order, a situation that often degenerates into pandemonium. As long as the classroom is not burned to the ground, the teacher remains unconcerned, confident that even through the ruckus learning is still taking place. The students may make their own textbooks, write anything in them they wish, and may even force the other students to repeat their contents. Of course the teacher finds this quite humorous, but does not feel compelled to edit or correct any errors, at best allowing his assistants (Angels) to nod approval faintly if a student stumbles on a truth. Any student is permitted to step before the class and become the class monitor, whether he is the exemplary student, the ignoramus or the bully. Usually they do not appear in that order. Often, only after the bullies and ignorant have almost destroyed the classroom are the better students given the opportunity to call the class to order. The teacher only returns on graduation day, and then only to point out the misconceptions in the books. No student is required to acknowledge these corrections, as one may repeat the class as often as desired.

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Anonymous said...

Well YB I realize that & have apologized more than once for my past behavior & that is all a person can do & try not to let it happen again. I know it gets old but then none of us are perfect.I came in as a peacmaker & got drawn into the fight.

This govt was corrupt long before Bush so forgive me if I do not share your enthusiasm.

JFK was a lot like Obama & we all know what happened to him when he tried to dismantle the system by printing money from the treasusry instead of borrowing money from the fed resv.

Sure the system is falling apart but it is a planned demolition to bring in the NWO. Do you believe this will be the 1000 year reign of peace spoke of as {} believes?

I will post some more of other peoples words here(although I believe they are Gods words & are the only truth we can go by in this time of darkness).Tell me though do you believe that the bible is just other mens words as {} says because when I said that abaout Paul I was led to believe you thought the bible was the word of God also & not just words of men.I may be weak minded but then I have never claimed to be wise of my own understanding.

Revelation 9

Sixth Trumpet: The Angels from the Euphrates

13 Then the sixth angel sounded: And I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14 saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” 15 So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind. 16 Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them. 17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone. 18 By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths. 19 For their power is in their mouth and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents, having heads; and with them they do harm.
20 But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. 21 And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.

Tell me have a third of mankind been killed yet?

The NWO that{} professed to be the new age of light wants to maintain a world population of 500 million. How do you purpose they will do this?

Sorry to say it is far from over. The tribulation has just begun.

Tell me you can read through revelation & say that it is all over now.

I will tell you what I think of {}.
He has tried to seperate man from the word as a wolf trying to seperate the sheep from the shepherd so it can devour it.
He tries to humiliate one in saying you are a sheep & only following the words of others but then is that not what we are instructed to do? I am not fooled by his words & do not care how weak minded I am called because I know the truth & will stand in it.

Thomas

Anonymous said...

2 Corinthians 11:3-15

Paul and False Apostles

5 For I consider that I am not at all inferior to the most eminent apostles. 6 Even though I am untrained in speech, yet I am not in knowledge. But we have been thoroughly manifested[b] among you in all things.
7 Did I commit sin in humbling myself that you might be exalted, because I preached the gospel of God to you free of charge? 8 I robbed other churches, taking wages from them to minister to you. 9 And when I was present with you, and in need, I was a burden to no one, for what I lacked the brethren who came from Macedonia supplied. And in everything I kept myself from being burdensome to you, and so I will keep myself. 10 As the truth of Christ is in me, no one shall stop me from this boasting in the regions of Achaia. 11 Why? Because I do not love you? God knows!
12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

Anonymous said...

Romans 16:17-20

Avoid Divisive Persons

17 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. 18 For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple. 19 For your obedience has become known to all. Therefore I am glad on your behalf; but I want you to be wise in what is good, and simple concerning evil. 20 And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

Anonymous said...

Ephesians 4:11-16

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Anonymous said...

It is unfortunate that some would deny they are dividers, and yet use the words stolen from saints for that very purpose. There is no glory in the use of scripture to conceal a black heart, have at least the courage to compose your own words, and subject them to the scrutiny of others. When your work does have not the benefit of wide acceptance garnered from the efforts of others, and are mere words on paper, then one can experience how the prejudice of the casual reader can pollute their meaning. When was it said the Tribulation is over, when was the word even used? NWO, 500 million, sheep, 1000 year reign, these are the words of another. It seems rather unsportsmanlike to speak ill of Satan, then assume his role yourself, as the Accuser. If you come as a peacemaker, as claimed, then leave your spear at the door. To lash out at others with unkind cuts, followed by effusive apologetics, is not only poor debating technique, but is also a stratagem that quickly wears thin. Speaking one’s mind requires no apology.

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Anonymous said...

I gave you my own words then backed them up with gospel.

You on the other hand use your own words & do not back them up with gospel because you can not.

You preach reincarnation & that well if one get it wrong this time they get another chance again & again & again. This is not in scripture.

You hate the word of God & call it the words of saints or other people as if it was from them the word came from. I never claim these ideas to be my own but you on the other hand use others words & try to claim they are your own & puff yourself up inflating your huge ego.

I will continue to use the word of God that you hate so much to hear. You are in need of serious repentence for you still rebel against God & try to take credit for yourself the works of his hand.

Your attempts to belittle me do not bother me in the least.
You keep firing away & I will just keep using the word of God to repute you.

Thomas

Anonymous said...

Some insight on were our friend {} is coming from.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/newage.htm

young brother said...

Thomas, still you are trying to provoke arguments. How can you claim that you are being "Dragged in"? Why don't you take Cresponsibility for yourself? Why do you think it is your job to dismantle and discredit everyone you disagree with? Don't you understand that you are being very harsh, and increasingly irrational, and hypocritical? Don't you see that you are attacking () and me, and have been for awhile now? Where is your love in any of this behavior? If you want to quote scriptures, indicating that some people here are false prophets being used by Satan, you should be prepared for receiving a similar judgment (not from me, but from the one who counts).

I will quote two scriptures that you should ponder on:

"What does it profit a man if he should gain the whole world, and yet forfeit his soul?"

"If any man hates his brother, the love of God is not in him".

What's being called the "New Age" is simply the gospel of the kingdom of God...an inevitability, that Satan has tried to defuse by latching on a myriad of views from different world religions. The Kingdom under Christ will be the only real "New Age", but this age is surely coming. Christians shouldn't fear this promise.

I spent a lot of time and effort trying to explain to you, by scripture, why it's three days instead of four. I thought you had come to agree with what I shared, but it seems I was wrong about that. Since you don't believe we will be in the last days for another 1000 years, why are you here? Why do you feel compelled to cut, judge, defend, and be dragged into anything that you don't agree with on a fundamental level? Are you really here to help this community? Are you as innocent as you are claiming to be? As long as you continue in the spirit of division and argument, you are not benefiting any of us, or yourself; and you are certainly not doing God any favors.

Ali, my heart is with you. I hope your friend will return to her senses once she wanders in the wilderness for a bit...may God be with her.

Anonymous said...

Thomas,
This is the first and only time I will address you directly. Although your name was never used, you sought to react like a lanced boil, spewing poison on your own physician. If the shoe fits, wear it! This blog is about the End Times, it is a journal that captures the thoughts and feelings of those that are aware something is drastically changing. Nowhere does it say that scripture needs to be the foundation of belief in order to comment here. You make a great mistake by attacking the messenger, and not the message. Your poor command of the language can be overlooked, and some allowance given to difficulties in comprehension, but your issues run deeper than a simple lack of understanding. You have a rigid and dogmatic attitude, you are a victim of your own inflexibility to consider information presented to you in another form. This can be forgiven also. What is more troubling is your eagerness to ascribe a dark motive to another’s intent. You are being tested, my friend, be glad there are no consequences this time, the future may hold a different experience. Satan can quote scripture in every language. Do you think God will not test you on your greatest weakness?

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Ali said...

My sister FF,

I invite you to watch this interesting video till its end. The video was shot in 1974.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQgZ3oLp_WY

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

ROFL.

I know YB you are never wrong but it was I who said 3 days when you said 2 days, go back & look.
So now I was right?

It was me who said the bible was written by men but you who said it was the word of God.
So again I was right?

You see no matter which stance I take I am wrong. Man your hypocricy kills me YB.

Go ahead, in you desire to always be right you will eventually be wrong in everything.


Thank you for having mercy on me this time{} now that I know you are God & have come back I will hang on to your every word.

faithful forever said...

Greetings with holy kisses,

First off, I would certainly like to agree that our beautiful sister Sandra is amazing, and I miss her presence here greatly.

Second, none of us are perfect and this point has been well proven by each of us at various times and we are always able to move forward in a more positive, understanding way and this is my prayer for our community of faith once again. LOVE wins this battle and WILL prevail and we all have a choice as to which we want to found standing on. There are only two sides of which to choose from.

To ()
This resonated with me and I thank you: What is more troubling is your eagerness to ascribe a dark motive to another’s intent.

Ali, great find with that video and nothing has changed; only the beast's grip has gotten tighter. Be sure to check out the comments; this is for you my beloved brother:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/24/bishop-richard-williamson_n_160598.html

Keep shining in dark times. It will only get easier to brightly shine in a darkening world.

Love to all.

faithful forever said...

I was a little bit rushed with that comment, and it shows; please accept my apology for any inconvenience.

I was trying to say that no one here has ever claimed to be perfect and love and forgiveness are a far better choice to make than anger and bitterness. Love will allow you to take another step (foot reference), but the other will cause you to stand still, or worse to fall backwards. The angels rejoice in love and the demons revel in anger. There are only two sides to choose from in this battle and we make that decision based on the condition of our heart of what we truly desire.

There is so much going on in the world and the spiritual battle has intensified right along side it.

Alaska is expecting Mount Redoubt (what an interesting name) to erupt any day as it is 'imminent' they are now saying. A judge has declared that California can indeed suspend payments of tax refunds and welfare checks. For how long is what I would like to know, but the poor and the elderly will be immediately devastated. It is not hard to believe that a court would uphold such, but I pray for it to be overturned. Aid is not getting into Gaza even though Israel says it is. Spain has publicly announced that it will do whatever it can to stop investigations into Israeli war crimes committed in Gaza, and Israel is urging other European nations to do the same. Obama has told Iran that the US will use whatever means necessary leaving all options on the table over Iran's disputed nuclear program. The vatican sided publicly with full support for Israel this week and I believe this is prophecy being fulfilled.

Indeed Annon, the pace is quickening once again. You know, it occured to me that I do not even know if you are a brother or a sister, but it matters not because I love you just the same. Just a thought I wanted to share with you. Stay blessed and keep looking up and know that there is someone looking up with you.

Young Brother, your strength and courage are a blessing to behold. Thank you for all your efforts here; I greatly appreciate all of it and I thank our God for your fellowship. Keep marching. Lots of love in His name.

my brother nathandave, you belong here and I long for you to return.

We are here for a reason and we are all God's people. We may not always agree and this is to be expected and it is perfectably acceptable, but standing still is not an option as time is growing short quickly. My love and prayers for all who gather here in His name.

faithful forever said...

Speaking of Australia:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7862260.stm

faithful forever said...

Annon,

You bring me such joy and I rejoice with you for an end to this corruption and lawlessness; your steadfastness and dedication blesses me beyond measure. I give thanks to our amazing God for you my brother. I am not sure why or how I found you at the previous link, but I went right to you and found your post with this incredible link you found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cznZs-swR9k&eurl=

I am so honored to be looking up with you and shouting from the rooftops. Our Lord is so very patient and longsuffering but so very faithful. I love watching prophecy unfold with you my brother, and I absolutely adore your spirit. Keep up the good work and keep shining. Love and prayers always Annon.

faithful forever said...

The damage from the ice and snowstorms that went from the Midwest to the East Coast this week are said to be more than from Hurricane Ike. The temps have gone up into the 20's making easier work for the restoration crews, but now there are the risks and danger of flooding. Kentucky is calling in the largest number of guards ever to assist. People have no heat, no food, no phone and no electricity. The shelters are so full they are urging people who have the means to head South for hotel rooms because it will be 'weeks' before things are back to normal:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-winter-storm,0,6659835.story

France and Switzerland are now experiencing 'social unrest' as well:

http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/bbdp/davos-turns-to-free-trade-social-unrest/317203

I particulary liked this quote from the article:

"Beyond trade, the leaders at Davos heard fervent appeals on behalf of the "bottom billion" people in the world economy."

The bottom billion...that would be us folks! The useless eaters with meaningless lives.

I am now curious about 'protectionism' that this articles speaks of and would like to hear anyone's understanding about it. As a matter of fact, I would just like to hear from anyone about anything! Well, almost anything anyway.

Be of good cheer.
Our redemption draweth near.

faithful forever said...

Interesting:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21876.htm

Anonymous said...

The world is in turmoil. No nation is immune from this crisis. Sadly, the suffering of poor nations have long been forgotten or I should rather say, it was not even that important to attract the media attention.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jan/31/global-recession-europe-protests

And here we are with another fear of terror.

http://www.naturalsolutionsradio.com/articles/article.html?id=23521&cid=816&rvoted=23521

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

faithful forever said...

The news describes the economy in terms of 'contractions' and the birth pains are getting stronger. The Feds closed banks in Maryland, Utah and Florida. The Asian markets are falling drastically, and no wonder China and Japan are speaking against 'protectionism' and it seems there is a renewed 'buy American' spirit in a feeble attempt to turn things around. Now globabliztion is a bad thing?? We are so lost.

From Wikipedia:
Protectionism is the economic policy of restraining trade between nations, through methods such as tariffs on imported goods, restrictive quotas, and a variety of other restrictive government regulations designed to discourage imports, and prevent foreign take-over of local markets and companies.

Annon, the warning/prediction from Juval Aviv would seem unfortunately right in time with their agenda the way it is moving right along, and would coincide also with earlier predictions of an early spring/summer attack. Remember when we used to be made to feel nervous about gathering in crowded places, and the Super Bowl always seemed like easy pickin's and now there is one tomorrow with not a peep about it.

I have read quite a few articles today that keep mentioning Obama's 11th day in office. Has anyone else noticed this?

This was the most recent:
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/China_s_Hu_urges_Obama_to_resist_pr_01312009.html

In Obama's video address today, he said he would be making a comment about the economy and the stimulus package 'soon.'

Oh yeah, and the market analysts said they are sure that the economy will continue in downwar contractions for a while yet. This is not going to be pretty.

Looking up with you - always!

Prepare for the worst but pray for the best.

Interesting times, and I for one am thankful to have a place with God's people to share it.

Love and peace to all.

Ali said...

FF,

Thank you my sister for that interesting link of Israeli ambassador. It is funny that he wanted the cameras to be turned off. It seems that we are facing another war. And it might happen sometime even before the Israelis election. Who knows? So their party have the honor of becoming elected once again as the major party of Israel based on their bravery.

Keeping the faith with you,
Ali,

Anonymous said...

They are all over and that explains what awaits millions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvcK3Gg2DLs&eurl=

Saty blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

faithful forever said...

Ali,

Did you see the look on the Israeli Ambassador's face when he realized what he had just said? He seemed genuinely surprised that he had let the cat out of the bag about the coming war with Iran. ~They~ can hardly wait for the death and destruction to commence.

Israel is threatening the Gaza again because rockets are still being fired into Southern Israel but no deaths reported from it, yet Israel will use it for their justification:

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Israel_vows_disproportionate_strike_02012009.html

Thanks for that link, Annon. Their NWO is a modern-day Tower of Bable, and this plan will not come to fruitition either. I am not frightened by their evil plans because I know how powerful our God truly is and He is with us. Whom shall we fear? Only the Lord Himself.

Keep fighting the good fight.

Love and peace to all.

faithful forever said...

IF you can stomach the lies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rS_a0gKsCQ

Ali said...

Thank you FF very much.

IRAN, IRAN , IRAN !

These people are even dead scared of the shadow of this name! I am becoming convinced that they have Iranophobia. They tell lies to the journalists and when they see those lies in the print they themselves believe it !!

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Ali said...

What a coincident! A beautifully shot documentary by Rick Steves just after Peres comments! I came across this on youtube. Make sure to watch it in high quality (6-parts):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww24QGZ6pC8&feature=channel

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

Ali,

What a great find; I have watched the first part and it is wonderful getting to know this country that has been so villified by the US.

Steves reports that Iranians are not Arabs, but Persians. Could you explain the difference?

In regards to your earlier comment of Israel having a fear of Iran, it is also a very deep-seated apparent hatred. The way I see it, Iran is the last resistance to the NWO and their plan of world domination they so desperately seek.

Back to part two...and looking forward to your response on the difference of Persian and Arabian.

Love and prayers to all.

faithful forever said...

Ephesians 4:32 (King James Version)

32And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

faithful forever said...

Israel bombed Gaza today, and they are playing by new rules? An excerpt:

"We will act according to new rules that will guarantee that we are not dragged into an incessant tit-for-tat war that will not allow normal life in the south of the country," Olmert said at the opening of the weekly cabinet meeting.

"The response will come at the time, the place and the manner that we choose."

Defence Minister Ehud Barak said that "Hamas was given a very serious blow and if necessary it will be given another blow."

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Israel_bombs_Gaza_after_new_rocket__02012009.html

New rules after a peace envoy is departing from the Middle East. Could there be a connection?

Love and prayers to all.

young brother said...

FF, it seems that you are going full speed ahead once again. You made a couple of comments recently where you addressed almost everyone here with specific words of kindness and love, and the potency of it really struck me. Out of the abundance of our hearts (which should be filled with love for God and for each other), our mouths speak. It is by the spirit that was on you when you made those comments that we shall overcome the world. Try to remember what was going through your heart at the time. It caused you to shine extra brightly.

Thomas, you have said a few times that I will disagree with you no matter what you say or what stance you take. I haven't responded to that accusation before, because there were other issues at hand.

The truth is, I would agree, and cheer you on if you hold and maintain a stance of encouragement, respect, empathy and love for all the people gathered here. That is the spirit we all need to strive to operate in. I know it won't be easy, and I'm prepared to forgive your temper as long as you can bear with mine. Leaving Babylon is not easy. By working together, we can help each other in the effort, though. We simply can't let our anger, our pride, our frustrations, or anything else get in the way of the goal at hand. That goal is to walk the narrow path that leads to righteousness. To be touched, and transformed by the light of God into new creations. I am guilty of arguing with you, and I have a tendency to argue in me (as you do). If I have cut you with my words, I'm sorry. I truly hope you will forgive me.

Anonymous said...

This looks like the same old pig with a new face. "Change!"

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5636297.ece

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

young brother said...

By the way, FF, thank you for manning the news tower. I forgot to share a link in my last comment. Three days ago, I went to a goodwill store, and found a fantastic book called "Why the Christian Right is Wrong", by Robin Meyers. I'm on the second chapter so far, but it is really fantastic. The author tips his hat to a neo-christian underground resistance online (of which we are a part), and he really verbalizes a lot of the things that we have been discussing and discovering over the past few years. I would recommend everyone to get a copy of this book. May God bless us all.

young brother said...

Annon, I tried that link you shared from the timesonline, but it's going to a 404 error page? Could you repost it? Thank you for manning the newstower as well!

Anonymous said...

YB,
I copied and paseted the same link from my post and it worked. Try again. In case if you can't find below part of the article.

"The banner headlines greeting President Obama’s decision to close the detention centre at Guantánamo Bay and secret CIA prisons may have concealed how he has retained one of the most controversial weapons in the War on Terror.

Under executive orders signed on January 22, the CIA appears to have preserved its authority to carry out renditions – by which hundreds of terrorist suspects have been abducted and transferred to prisons in countries with questionable human rights records such as Egypt, Morocco or Jordan.

The measure, disclosed by the Los Angeles Times yesterday, gives some indication of how Mr Obama’s promise of change may be slower to be realised than once hoped, with the new Administration coming under concerted attack across a range of issues....."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5636297.ece

Anonymous said...

Excerpt from the article in the link below.

The former U.S. diplomat said that he seriously advises U.S. President Barack Obama to opt for a military attack on Iran’s uranium enrichment, should three months of direct negotiation with Iran prove to be a failure.

http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=188225

Saty blessed and keep looking up.

Annon

Ali said...

FF,

Well the difference is regarding the race. The word Iran itself has come from "Aryānām" which signifies to the "Land of Aryans". That is to say that Iranian are dependents of Aryan race.

Arab which I really don't know that much about their race, I believe are somehow connected to people who used to live in the deserts of Saudi Arabia and north of Arfica like Egypt. I am not sure and I don't know that much about them really. Sorry :)

Keep the faith,
Ali,

Ali said...

Sorry for the typo. It should be "decedents of Aryan race" .

Thank you.

Ali said...

Interesting! A wave of documentaries are coming out from different media channels! It seems that issue of Iran is really at stake. This time from Aljazeera English and I watched the first part it has amazing archival footages with great quality.

Anatomy of a Revolution - 01 Feb 09 - Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDifaCVanaM

Keep the faith,
Ali,

young brother said...

Listen now to Peter's radio show, Pursuing Truth. New Time slot is Mondays at 6pm eastern (for 1 hour).

At the MicroEffect.

faithful forever said...

YB,

As you said, there is still a lot of ground to cover. I believe with all my heart that we are in the end times and that has not changed nor has our one most important common denominator - our love for Jesus. I am pleased to be of service in some small way.

This was the worst January on record for stocks, and everywhere I turn I hear 'the economy needs a savior' and it sickens me more each time. More and more layoffs with more on the way. Soon 'an announcement' will be made by the new Secretary of the Treasury who didn't pay his taxes...stay tuned for further details.

I only report; you decide.

Obama kept the rendition legislature alive and well on his third day in office. He has also chosen a man by the name of Dennis Ross to the post of 'Special Envoy to Iran,' who is allegedly a well-known Zionist militarist who is often referred to as "Israel's Lawyer." The diplomatic-relations option is off the table with this man and the article I read said that Iran's leaders understood this very well to be the because of the history of extreme hardlineness by Ross.

Now for the weather!

The Day Britain Froze:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article5639189.ece

Love and prayers to all.

faithful forever said...

*very well to be the case because...

Keep marching and fighting the good fight.

And praying for our community...

Love in His name.

Ali said...

Peace is just a name, war is the game:

Israeli aircrafts have launched fresh attacks on the Gaza Strip pounding the southern parts of the densely populated coastal region.

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=84516&sectionid=351020202

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

Indeed war is the game they play, but soon the One who can wage war with them will show them a mighty fury.

Fresh atacks while at the same time the Knesset is relinquishing communications between its' soldiers (they are being asked to give up their cell phones so nothing can be intercepted), and no photo journalists allowed in Gaza. Al-Jazzera (sp?) was the only network surprisingly allowed before. And then there were none. This is the only holocaust that should be discussed, but the other one keeps coming to the forefront:

http://news.aol.com/article/pope-benedict-holocaust/328002

What a wicked web. What a world.

With so many people being foreclosed on, there is one brave woman in Ohio, Rep. Marcy Kaptur-D, who is telling people to stay in their homes; be squatters. Where is the bailout for the people and why can they not get the assistance that is entitled to them under a TARP Law passed last year for restructuring of mortgages. Freddie Mac is 'allowing' some forclosed owners to stay in their homes as renters. The contractions are getting closer...

She gave a phone number and I would like to pass it along for anyone who might know someone that needs it, it is 888-995-HOME. There is a group called "Foreclosure Fighters" who are heading doing what they can, and a couple sheriffs in Cook Co., IL and one in Wayne Co., OH are refusing to remove any more peoples from their homes. It will surely mean their jobs sooner or later.

So little news about the Gaza, so a big thank you for the link, Ali.

Rome is burning, but the largest calvary ever is on its way. Be patient and watchful; all the words of the Lord are true and mighty. This we know certain in a most uncertain world.

Love to all with prayers.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

faithful forever said...

War and rumors of war, but let not your heart be troubled, for all these things must come so they can pass. From Ali's article:

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=84523&sectionid=351020203

Time is growing short and I believe major revelations are going to start taking place soon, and most likely very suddenly as our redemption draws nearer.

Come Lord Jesus, come.
Rejoice and give thanks.

faithful forever said...

Forgot to mention that Iran announced today that it launched its own satellite into orbit which is driving the neocons a little extra crazy...

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=84559&sectionid=3510213

February 10th is the elections in Israel and February 12th is the one year anniversary of Imad Muginyah's death in Damascus. Throw the economy into the mix, and you have the perfect storm.

From which comes the perfect solution.

faithful forever said...

Cheney would know:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090204/pl_politico/18390

Ali said...

Livin' it with Livni !

Now after killing enough children it is time for Tzipi Livni, who is 51, to step into a night club and boogie boogie till the election.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233304682380&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

In the meantime Vatican wants Bishop who denied the Holocaust to recant.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1061470.html

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

Greetings Ali,

It will be interesting to see what Williamson does - if he recants or not. Germany is really giving the vatican a lot of heat over this...especially the girl in tight jeans out partying for votes, Livni.

The hypocrisy never ends.

Keepin' the faith.
with love to all.

faithful forever said...

Interesting site:

http://www.hermes-press.com/societal_apocalypse.htm

Anonymous said...

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25006615-663,00.html

Anonymous said...

FF

Add to what Cheney knows, this one makes a bit of sense.

http://www.apocalypse2008-2015.com/NYC_Days_Numbered.html

Stay blessed and keep looking up

Annon

Anonymous said...

A good vidio clip to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHpdyRavZmY&eurl=

Stay blessed and keep looking up.

Ali said...

Anonymous you reminded me of this radio broadcast here.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95172279

Keep the faith,
Ali,

faithful forever said...

Annon,

I believe anything is possible at this point, anything.

Indeed, Ali. There are always two sides to every story.

Love and prayers - always.

Anonymous said...

So that justifies 80 women raped and set up as sucide boomers as their only alternative to saving themselves from the shame of the rape. What about the men who did this to them? No shame for them but justified for their cause. Women and children are always the victims of mans inhumanity to man. I don't see the "there is always another side to the story" in the article I linked.

faithful forever said...

Anonymous, I am most definitely not saying there is any justification. There can never be justification for acts like this.

Another side to the story is what depths people are brought to in an attempt to survive. Some will turn to unspeakable acts, that those of us who don't have to make these choices, cannot understand.