Monday, October 27, 2008

Gog and Magog

Ok, here is my post. Remember, these are MY refelctions and are not meant to be taken as the last word.

I believe that George Walker Bush is the world leader who Ezekiel the prophet symbolically names Gog from the land of Magog. I believe he will pull (Meshech can mean to pull in Hebrew) and draw (Tubal can mean to draw out in Hebrew) the world into the final war to end all wars, which will be followed shortly after by the second coming of Jesus Christ. While the story of Gog and Magog is an ancient one, dealing with power, conquest, and the oppression of the weak, I believe the move towards the final confrontation and destruction of Gog, described in the Book of Ezekiel and the Book of Revelation, is currently under way. I believe the war of Gog from Magog began in 1991 when Bush’s father, George HW Bush attacked Saddam Hussein in Gulf War I, and shortly after proclaimed the creation of a New World Order. However I believe his son, George, will take on the final personality of Gog and will consign, by his actions, the Beast of Imperialism into what the Book of Revelation calls the lake of fire forever, signaling the arrival of the Kingdom of God in its full majesty, what has traditionally been called the Second Coming of Jesus the Christ.

This New World Order that Bush senior referred to is a Satanic/Corporate/Fascist organization, often called the Illuminati, that is designed to enslave the majority of humanity and establish a Kingdom of Some Humans (elites, the so-called Illuminati Blood Line, etc.) as gods (the fulfillment of the prophecy encoded in the story of Adam and Eve, where the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil makes one equal to god). For a further explanation of this, see http://marcellusunleashed.blogspot.com/

This Kingdom’s primary legend centers around the Grail and the Grail Bloodline, made famous in the book The DaVinci Code. In opposition stands God’s vision of a Kingdom in which God re-creates humanity in the image of his divine son, Jesus, making all human beings divine. As such, the NWO is the biblical Anti-Christ (against Christ), the Final Beast of Revelation, Gog and Magog. It is called by all three names in the New Testament. I believe the incarnate symbols of this reality are the person, George Bush, and the nation he rules, America: Gog from Magog. This essay will not focus directly on the details and history of the NWO, but instead on the identity of Gog and Magog, and some possible implications for the future. If you wish to research the phenomenon of the New World Order further, I suggest

http://www.threeworldwars.com/new-world-order.htm, or the numerous works of David Icke.

I believe that the final phase of the war of Gog from Magog began on 9-11 2001 with the World Trade Center attack in New York, continued in Afghanistan and Iraq, but its deadly conclusion has not yet happened. I believe this will commence when Israel attacks and occupies the remaining Palestinian territories with the approval of America, and help from NATO.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7837

This appears to be under way as I write this essay. I believe that shortly after that a conflict will emerge in the Mid East region between NATO, the Shanghai Cooperative (China, Russia and many of the former Soviet Republics, India, North Korea-the Biblical Kings of the East), Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, a coalition of Arab States; in other words all the nations of the earth will gather in the Mid East for a final battle that has traditionally been called the Battle of Armageddon. This will not be a war of a “good side” versus a “bad side” but a war of dominion and conquest as the Kings of the World fight for their share of the New Empire, the NWO. In the end, Gog from Magog (Bush) will lead all the nations of the earth to their doom, what is symbolically referred to in Revelation as the Lake of Fire. I believe this war can still be mitigated or avoided all together if conditions change, and conditions have changed somewhat. I believe that the prophecy has been delayed at least 6 years because of the prayers, works, and sacrifices of truly religious people in this country and around the world, and the sacrifice of innocents (martyrs) the world over through whom God has chosen to reveal his goodness. God has allowed many to suffer in order to wake up the rest of us to the colossal evil that we all allowed to grow unchecked by our greed and selfishness, and to give us a little more time to have a change of heart and mind. The poor in such diverse places as Africa, Palestine, India, Thailand, the Americas, and other desperate places around the world, embody the spirit of the two witnesses from Revelation, and I believe have been used by God to delay the inevitable. However, our time may be running out.

I believe the Gog Magog prophecy does not refer to a direct invasion of the Zionist Nation-State of Israel by a country such as Russia as many so-called prophecy experts have claimed. However, Gaza and the West Bank will be occupied by NATO to herald the impending catastrophe. The reason I believe this to be true is because the language in the prophecy is highly symbolic, and if Ezekiel was speaking of a direct invasion of a restored nation of Israel by a Northern Power, then I believe Ezekiel would speak more literally and directly. For example, Ezekiel states that Gog attacks the mountains of Israel, yet falls on the mountains and in the open fields. Also, Gog’s horde is buried in a field, and yet the birds eat the flesh of kings and generals. These statements are contradictory, and must then be interpreted figuratively or they make no sense. Also, there are real questions among Torah believing Jews whether the Zionist State of Israel breaks the covenant established at Mount Sinai, and should be peacefully dismantled at once.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/.

The site referenced, and others like it, raise the possibility that the Zionist State was established by the NWO to be a counterfeit of the real Israel. The confusion caused by the Zionist Counterfeit could be used to fool honest religious people around the world into believing that God had delivered Israel to the Jews as a divine promise, and that he has ordained that they destroy their enemies. As a result, the Zionist State may actually be in league with the imperial NWO, Gog from Magog, and therefore would be working against the God they claim gave them their land. Paradoxically, this may also mean that the Palestinians are one representative of the Israel that is attacked by the hordes of Gog in the prophet's account, but there are many others.

Gog’s attack as presented by Ezekiel the prophet on Israel, for the reasons cited above, appears to be symbolic of a wider attack against God’s people around the world: the weak, the powerless, the poor, and the outcast which will lead to Gog’s ruin, and the final ruin of all kingdoms and empires forever. I believe this is also symbolized and foreshadowed in the story of the Exodus, when Pharaoh enslaves and oppresses the powerless children of Israel, and they are redeemed by faith in the power and majesty of their God, who creates his people at the foot of a mountain (Sinai) in order to create a powerful mountain of people who can war in Spirit and Truth against the Anti-Christ systems of empire which oppress and devour the powerless of the world. The culminating event of Gog;s war may have been foreshadowed thousands of years ago in Egypt, and may well happen in our lifetime.

The operating plan of the Illuminati, symbolized as Gog and his coalition, is to destroy, seize, and sell entire countries and people’s (mountains) to corporate interests, and bludgeon the people with a repressive police state, with a never ending war on terrorism as its excuse for existence. For a full description of this phenomenon and how it has been developed and perfected in America, and exported around the world, see Naomi Klein’s fantastic book, The Shock Doctrine. http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine

The goal of Gog (George Bush) and his coalition will be to turn the entire world into a corporate police state, herding the poor, outcast, and marginalized into massive ghettos and work camps, the likes of which have never been seen before, and never will be again, all in the name of corporate profit, naked power, and the hegemony of the NWO and their clients. The final war will take place when the coalition of Gog turns their “swords” on each other, perhaps because of treachery, fear, but most likely greed. It appears it will happen after some massive sign by God that he is coming in power, perhaps a massive earthquake, but this may be symbolic as well. While the war will have physical manifestations, it will be a spiritual war of light versus darkness, good versus evil, flesh versus spirit. True Israel around the world will be empowered by God with the weapons of Word and Spirit in order to fight the darkness, as they have always done throughout history, but the power of empire always has prevailed or retreated to plan its next attack. However, now the Holy Mountain of Israel, which is symbolic of God’s people, will spread with power throughout the whole earth, and overcome completely those who hate them: the kings, despots, and religious hypocrites that comprise the Babylonian/NWO Imperial System. Fallen, Fallen is Babylon the Great!

17 comments:

faithful forever said...

Amen, nathandave. I feel as though we have actually just gotten to watch Babylon the Great begin to fall because of all the truth in your revelation. It was beautiful to read and I am still filled with the Holy Spirit.

The Zionist movement, or the Christian right (the extremists of Christianity) have become an area of great interest to me after hanging around them at the other site. Most are a great loving people but it is sad because they are being led astray. Then it is frustrating because they appear happy to be led astray because of their self-righteousness. Wonderful post, nathandave.

Ali, I would love to have a copy of that book and I am really surprised to hear that it is a best seller - in Israel. All is being revealed and it is so exciting. I really enjoyed the video that was full of truth also. Love you my brother.

my young brother, your words strengthen me and fill me with love. I would really enjoy hearing more from you about the 'feet' of the Body of Christ.

We are coming to a major turning point, a huge revelation of some sort, and every day brings us closer to Babylon the not-so-great falling which fills me with hope even though it will cause devastation. Our Lord is with us.

To all who gather here - may the good Lord continue to make His face shine on you all. You bless me in so many ways that I can never repay, and you fill me with love and hope each and every day that I can never give enough thanks for...because you all mean that much to me.

faithful forever said...

I keep re-reading this part over and over:

True Israel around the world will be empowered by God with the weapons of Word and Spirit in order to fight the darkness, as they have always done throughout history, but the power of empire always has prevailed or retreated to plan its next attack. However, now the Holy Mountain of Israel, which is symbolic of God’s people, will spread with power throughout the whole earth, and overcome completely those who hate them: the kings, despots, and religious hypocrites that comprise the Babylonian/NWO Imperial System. Fallen, Fallen is Babylon the Great!

...And loving it more each time. Imagine a world with no evil, no sickness, no pollution, no hate; only paradise and love in the presence of Jesus Christ. With no worldly distractions...only meaningful work and worship of our Lord. We can sustain anything to get to that.

I can't believe there aren't a million comments...go figure. Our numbers are small but I see mighty just the same.

The Word and the Spirit are the two witnesses that will breath fire and cannot be destroyed. Could that really be His people?

I also believe those that are waiting to see a temple rebuilt in Jerusalem might have to wait a long time for the temple is already being built in His people. The antichrist system may stage an event but I think it is doubtful. People will be watching for something that may never happen which makes it easier for satan to continue to deceive them.

All the zionist/christians do not or cannot see the evil that the state of Israel perpetuates on the world and feel fully justified in calling for the destruction of her enemies because God calls for it. And don't even think about dividing the land; every time they have even discussed it, this is when we have had God's judgment come upon us in floods and hurricanes. Must be how the timing was planned with some of the HAARP storms and it worked like a charm.

Oh yeah, interesting times with the best yet to come. Indeed, with the very best yet to come.

Conglomerate said...

Young Brother, FF, Nathandave:

Thank you to you all for your responses and posts. Found a clip from a speech I guess, Worthy to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEwgTm6bdRc

Keep the faith,
Ali.

young brother said...

NathanDave,

Yesterday was my birthday. You made my day by posting this. Thank you. I understand that this is your understanding and your interpretation of what these prophecies mean, but it really rings true for me. You lead by example in your humility.

FF, I would be happy to share more about the "Feet" concept soon. It's something that has been in the backburner of my mind for a long time, and I recently read a verse somewhere that put the idea into crystal clear focus, and gave me a confirmation about it.

Ali,

The 9-11 ritual video was very very interesting. I went on to see part 45, and will probably be looking at a couple of other chapters from the series in the next couple of days. Have you seen the whole series? Which parts would you recommend?

Patricia Burns said...

Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal -

We see the Dragon (Satan/Devil), at the Sixth PLAGUE, prior to the battle of Armageddon (Re.16:12-16 below), on the world scene with the beast (Re.13:1) and the false prophet (Re.13:11).

Satan gives the beast of Revelation 13:1 and the “another” beast of Revelation 13:11 their power (Re.13:2, Re.13:12).

By the Sixth PLAGUE Satan (the Dragon/the Devil) is manifested in the flesh as the man Gog (Eze.39:1-5, Eze.39:11).

Gog (Satan/the Devil) is the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Eze.39:1).

It would not surprise me if the beast/king of Revelation 13:1, who is seen as “the beast” at Revelation 16:13, will have the name Meshech and that the beast/king of Revelation 13:11, who is seen as “the false prophet” at Revelation 16:13, will have the name Tubal.

Gog is at the battle of Armageddon (Eze.39:17-20, Re.19:17-21). The man Gog is buried after the battle of Armageddon (Eze.39:11), but this manifested evil spiritual entity, Satan (Gog), in death, will be bound in the bottomless pit throughout the Millennium.

After the Millennium (the thousand years) Satan will gather the nations from the four quarters of the earth to battle (Re.20:8). They will encompass the camp of the immortal saints and the beloved city, Jerusalem. Fire from heaven rains down upon them; they are destroyed (Re.20:7-11).

Satan is the “god” (2 Cor.4:4) of this present evil world (Gal.1:4, Jn.12:31).

I believe that the LAND of Magog (Eze.38:2, Eze.39:6) is this earth.

The earth and the heavens will pass away AFTER the battle of Gog and Magog (Re.20:11, 2 Peter 3:10-12, Dan.2:35).



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NathanDave said...

Patricia, thank you for your contribution, however I do not think Revelation supports the thesis of a millenium and a final destruction of Satan after he decieves the world one more time. Satan's defeat, when it happens, will be final.

faithful forever said...

nathandave,

I am still loving the revelation of Meshech and Tubal; I could never understand that.

Thank you again for the tremendous blessing from your post.

Love you my brother.

NathanDave said...

Your welcome FF, and all. I have been sitting on this for a while, not sure if it is accurate. I think its accurateis as far as it goes, but how it will unfold and when is in God's hands. War in the Mid East looks inevitable, but with God all things are possible.

faithful forever said...

Indeed, how and when it will unfold is in God's hands. I am so glad you shared and it is the way I see it also, I just couldn't have been as eloquent. We must follow where He takes us. We have done the same thing essentially with Bush being the Son of Perdition, and now we are about to see if this vision is accurate. Will it be revealed to the whole world shortly when he doesn't leave office? Yes, all we can do is follow our Spirit and again, I am so blessed by you following yours.

Love in His name.

Balor said...

"The site referenced, and others like it, raise the possibility that the Zionist State was established by the NWO to be a counterfeit of the real Israel. The confusion caused by the Zionist Counterfeit could be used to fool honest religious people around the world into believing that God had delivered Israel to the Jews as a divine promise, and that he has ordained that they destroy their enemies. As a result, the Zionist State may actually be in league with the imperial NWO, Gog from Magog, and therefore would be working against the God they claim gave them their land."

This is an interesting view. It means the millions of Christians who view the state of Israel as the fulfillment of prophecy are deceived. If they deceived, then they are not among the Elect because the Elect can not be deceived.

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