I wonder if people here are familiar with the prophecies of Siener Van Rensburg?
Among his startling prophecies was the death of Lady Diana, the Chernobyl Disaster, the release of Nelson Mandela from prison and the end of white rule in South Africa. He forsaw the AIDS epidemic as a result of immorality.
Of his homeland, South Africa, he foresaw the period from 1960 to 1994 when the South African government began to lose control of the situation on its own soil. From 1994 till the present he prophesied the false and violent peace of ANC rule which will continue until the death of Nelson Mandela.
As soon as Mandela dies, there will be a revolt and a civil war in 3 of the 7 provinces of South Africa. My current speculation is that Julius Malema will eventually be disciplined by the ANC leadership and, in response, lead his followers in the ANC Youth League in a rebellion against the party.
Van Rensburg, predicts the conflict will be brief and the rebellion smashed in the border town of Prieska. After this a new and balanced government will emerge and will rule until the Second Coming.
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Hey Balor...nice to have you join us. I am not familiar with any of that but thanks for sharing it. You always did usually bring a radical perspective and good to see some things don't change!
I know I love the idea for a new and balanced world.
Authorities are eluding to the protesters' days being numbered.
Time will tell all things but we know this at least, that something is upon us and possibly approaching more quickly than ever before.
Love and peace in His name.
ff
A Berean Blessing:
Galatians 5:22
(22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
New King James Version
Joy that is a fruit of God's Spirit has its roots in the realization of God's purpose and its outworking that transforms us into His image. Biblical joy begins when God calls, and we hear the gospel, understand, and believe it.
Biblical joy is bound up in our relationship with Him and our understanding of what is happening to our minds. We walk to the beat of a different drummer than this world because we understand God's overall purpose. We know we have been forgiven and have a place in His purpose because we now have His Spirit. No more life-changing experience can ever happen to a human than when God calls and understanding dawns. It forever alters our perspective on life itself and on the things we formerly trusted to give us satisfaction.
Henceforth our joys must arise from yielding to fulfill God's great creative purpose and seeing it accomplished. This is why we were born! Because of this, we can look forward to hearing Him say:
Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord. (Matthew 25:21)
John W. Ritenbaugh
Amen!
ff
Hi Balor....I have not heard of these prophesies but did goggle to find out a little more on them. Thanks for posting.
On another matter the Wall Street protests are growing. From one website I go to a retired decorated Marine with 15 of his fellow buddies was headed to Wall Street in full uniform to protect the protestors. He said he did not serve his country to protect corporations but the people. People are getting feed up. Something is happening in this movement and it is exciting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCHg06JUl3Q
Here is a live feed to the Protest Movement:
http://mobilebroadcastnews.com/NewsRoom/Tags/OccupyWallStreet
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Its the beginning. It will be difficult, with good days and bad, but the people will prevail. God is giving us a chance to remake the future.
Dave,
We have to keep them in our prayers. I believe they might be infiltrated to put a bad spin on the movement. I do not trust the elite and believe they will try and manipulate the media. To be honest I think the main stream news are stupid. Below is a link to a group that I have been following for the last few years and they send me updates regularly. My prayer is for the protest to remain non-violent and not to stirred by the elite to act out in violence.
http://www.antipasministries.com/other/article184.htm
Thought maybe someone would like to see the stories of the real people who are occupying Wall Street:
http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
Interesting times.
ff
We are the 99%. What a great slogan. The elite would do well to understand that they make up the 1%.
The elites will infiltrate. Doesn't matter because this is a true decentralized movement. Like the anonymous movement, it is directed by ideas not a hierarchy. The ideas are broad reaching; economic justice, ecological justice, political reform, peace, etc. In the end, people may get to the point where they simply do not show up to work. Imagine massive strikes all over the country and the world. The 1% will have no choice but to change or get the hell out of the way. This is the eternal fire Jesus spoke of. They will wail and gnash their teeth, and rent their garments as their power is taken from them.
I am the 99%.
I am the 99%.
A time like no other is well upon us and I rejoice in all His ways. I am not quite so sure this is the eternal fire Jesus speaks about, but time will tell. This definitely seems to be for the people and by the people, but we have been fooled many times and we know that the powers that be are going to create chaos so people will accept their order. I am cautiously optimistic but a little reserved as well. After all, there are politicians saying we need more of this and what politician is trustworthy?
One sign I seen made by one of the 99 percenters said, "Until you wake up, I will fight for you."
I know my heart is with them and I really want to join them. Chicago and LA are starting to gather as well.
Greece confirms it will miss deficit targets, and this is really bad news for the American Stock Market. They are going to take down the world economies, and soon they way it sounds:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1175/623/Economic_Doomsday:_Worlds_Experts_Predict_Total_Disaster.html
Exciting times and growing more so with each day. I am thankful that we have this little community to share ideas and perspectives.
ff
It is growing...I am a 99%
This is the movement for change. It comes from "we the people" not with any one leader. Obama said "we are the change we were waiting for" and it is happening. God will always be with the least among us. Leaders always disappoint us but if we only follow the guiding spirit within we will be guided on our path to bring love and compassion to a hurting world. To stand up for the weak and powerless.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/americas/activists-throughout-canada-set-to-show-solidarity-with-wall-street-protesters/article2188341/
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Link below interview with a 99%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yrT-0Xbrn4
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FF I see why you are waiting. It is wise to look at all things objectively.
The Beatitudes represent the core of Jesus' Word. When I say eternal fire, that is what I mean: his idea that the Kingdom of God would come and completely overturn the kingdoms of this world through the power of its ideas. I do not doubt that there will be other fires, and punishments for the ungodly, but the Beatitudes of Jesus have never before been official policy of any human institution, except for the New Testament Church, and even then only for a short time. We may be living during the time when they finally are practiced in human society at large.
"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.
Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
Gospel of St. Matthew 5:3-10
Interesting times indeed.
Amen Dave
I do believe we need to discern the times we are living in
and pray for guidance. Jesus's teachings will help in understanding what role we should play in society until his Kingdom comes. Thou will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
This is the first I have heard of this and the momentum is huge:
http://15october.net/
Pass around far and wide. From the map on the right, there are not any events in the US - yet.
I am so excited. Cautious, but excited just the same. Indeed my beautiful sister Sandra, pray for guidance in all things.
Love the posting of the Beatitudes, Dave.
Shine on!!
ff
And one more to pass around:
http://www.civic.moveon.org/joinvirtualwallstreet/index_rtd.html?id=31653-18820743-LhTj8Qx
ff
For your listening pleasure....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0kJLW2EwMg&NR=1
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the link even though personally I am not a rap fan. I could not even understand the song until I found the song with lyrics.....LOL maybe my age is showing.
Have a peaceful evening both you and FF. Think I will participate in the virtual on-line protest on Wednesday that FF posted a link too.
Yeah I can't understand them either LOL!
I just love Rage against the machine because they speak truth to power. The symbols in the video say it all.
I am going to do the virtual protest as well. And I plan on sending it out to everyone in my family who keeps sending me stuff about the troops fighting for our freedom and how illegal aliens taking our country.
hmmmm.....
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1182/426/UPDATE_3_-_Occupy_WallStreet_EXPOSED._Its_Bogus...._Damn.html
ff
The tea party gets 100 people and they get wall to wall coverage. Occupy spreads to 21 cities world wide,and its a George Soros conspiracy. Please.
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2011/09/29/what-if-occupy-wall-street-was-sponsored-by-a-cable-news-channel/
Alex Jones did something on this as well. Its horsepoop and shows how Jones is an agent of disinformation. Now you know why he got into Bohemian Grove-he was invited.
Heres more on the so-called bogus wall street movement
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26911
I agree Dave.....I knew the right wing and their Corporate interest would try and do a smear job and it is beginning. I don't believe them at all. We are the 99% and the 1% elites will do anything to discredit the movement. It has begun but it is bigger than there smear tactics and instilling fear in the masses. As far as Alex Jones is concerned I never listen to his rants.
Here is a link to show what hypocrites the right wing is claiming class warfare..Their saint Ronald Reagon said the same thing President Obama has been talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgbJ-Fs1ikA
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Our brothers and sisters in Liberty Plaza (how appropriate), have drafted a Declaration:
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1186/921/Declaration_Of_The_Occupation_Of_New_York_City.html
Syria said that if attacked by NATO, they will bomb Tel Aviv. The attorney general Eric Holder has been caught lying about the length of time he was aware the ATF were bringing American weaponry into Mexico for the brutal drug wars. The Bush administration thinks the Obama administration should apologize to them for the killing of Al-Awlaki. Bernanke says the economy is close to faltering. Faltering What a nice word for total econonic collapse. Total controlled collapse...just like the world trade centers.
Stay blessed and keep looking up. Much better days are ahead.
God is so good.
ff
FF, its a crazy time. But at long last it looks like things will change.
Consider fasting and praying for the protesters that they remain faithful to nonviolence but steadfast in their commitment to confront this monstrous evil. The stakes are too high. Endure discomfort for those who are marching for our rights.
Very good advice Dave. We must keep them in our prayers and give them strength to resist the powers that will try to stir them to violence. Waiting for my email on the virtual protest.
FF..I know your cautious but sometimes we need to risk going against Babylona in order for change to come about. I don't think Jesus condemns those who try to expose the corruption with corporations and wall street and give voice to the least among them.
The beauty of this movement is there is NO ONE LEADER....it is a grassroots movement and the people are fed up and will rise up to speak their issues. The main stream media criticize this movement because they have no one leader but they just don't get it. We are done with following one leader. They always disappoint you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXgCfXNCacQ
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Many grassroots like Troy Davis supporters, 911 Responders, foreclosure families, 911 truthers, those who have nothing left to lose and those who want justice and equality; an end to this system of things of greed and corruption. It is an exciting movement if it is indeed legit.
I am cautious because look at the Egyptian uprising. That was our government and Israel backing those protestors to overthrow Mubarak for more imperial control and for more 'stability' in the region. At first glance it appeared to be a good thing springing up from the Arab Spring, but it is government controlled opposition. I know Jesus would never condemn those for taking up their cross in support of the oppressed.
I seen the other day that some politicians are calling the protestors "Marxists" and that is an indication that they really do view them as an enemy. If they view them as the enemy, rather than supporting them like they have the Egyptian protestors.
ff
Gaining momentum:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=35296
ff
Here is the link to the virtual protest going on right now. Already sent my support. It is a long link but should get you there:
http://civic.moveon.org/occupy/?registered=1&posted=1&mobile_phone_required=0&id=-12133028-cC5qaPx&submit2=Add+your+message&outbound_generation=1&referred_by&petition_id=1145&phone_required=0&track_referer&comment=I+am+in+support+of+this+movement.++My+prayers+for+strength+to+all+who+are+actively+protesting+on+Wall+Street+and+around+the+country.++Keep+it+peaceful+and+show+this+country+that+we+will+not+take+it+anymore.++It+is+time+for+the+99%25+to+voice+our+frustration+and+stop+be+manipulated+by+the+corporate+interest+in+this+country.++God+Bless+all.&user_state=WA&redirect_url=%2Foccupy%2F
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"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you....then you win." Gandhi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0cXaNp5wlE
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Corporate media now doing their ridicule.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I41OJ8OsqsQ
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Good article with interesting comments:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1188/738/8_Big_Changes_A_Comet_Brings.html
Love and peace to all in this time of change.
ff
...and then we see things like this in the MSM:
http://news.yahoo.com/3-weird-alien-planets-found-around-sun-star-200007406.html
gotta learn how to do hotlinks one day soon!
Comets have been diving into the sun of late and yesterday the far side of the sun had a major eruption. Signs in the heavens perhaps.
Come Lord Jesus, come quickly.
ff
Update on Occupy Wall Street:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/10/20111064517121776.html
ff
Keith Olbermann reads statement from Wall Street protesters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8o3peQq79Q&feature=player_embedded#!
ff
Good stuff FF. Thanks for posting.
Heres a good article on one person's perspective on the protests:
http://rosswolfe.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/reflections-on-occupy-wall-street-what-it-represents-its-prospects-and-its-deficiencies/
Chicago News reported Obama has finally made a statement about the growing protests:
BANKS AND BANKING
"The American people realize that not everybody has been following the rules. … these days a lot of the folks who are doing the right thing aren't rewarded and a lot of the people who are not doing the right thing are being rewarded. … That's going to express itself in 2012 and beyond."
Here's is one of my favorite quotes and it is even more relevant today than years ago when I first read it; author unkown to me:
We the little people have done so much with so little for so long, that we can now do anything with nothing.
The Greek protesters are crippling Greece and Spainairds are out in droves protesting their austerity measures. New reports are surfacing of Israel's new push for war on Iran before the American presidential election in 2012. That is one of the most ridiculous reasons for war if there was even a good one, but the twistedness of that reasoning shows the depth of depravity of that which we fight against.
1 John 4:5-6 KJV
5 They are of the world; therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Amen.
How good and faithful is our God to those who love Him. Praise Him for all His ways.
ff
Naomi Klein spoke at occupy last night,
good article from her web site:
http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2011/09/revolution-begins-home-open-letter-join-wall-street-occupation
Good morning Dave and FF,
Thank you for the links. Below is a link from a CNN commentary. I don't watch this station because it is too corporate media but found it on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZmsjAY12Y
Matthew 25: 34 - 40
Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
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Another great link with Naomi Klein:
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/10/6/naomi_klein_protesters_are_seeking_change
Calling for a nationwide run on the big banks on November 5th:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44800021
Things could heat up quickly. A lot of people have nothing left to lose. Occupy New Orleans protestors heard chants of 'kill the cops' coming from prison walls allegedly. People are fed up and change may well be on the horizon. I just hope and pray it is the change we are waiting for and not something worse than we already have. Time will soon tell.
...checking out some links and thanks for sharing guys. I love you both and am thankful we are here together in this incredible time in which we live. Prayers and blessings, and may God always be the light which lights our way.
ff
Great site for OWS:
http://ampedstatus.org/
Love and prayers for all in these changing times.
ff
I really like this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS3QOtbW4m0
I am the 99%
I really like that video too Dave. I see a little bit of irony in the fact the artist Gil Scott-Heron died this year in May and the revolution is starting this year.
The movement is growing; they now say it has spread to over 1,000 towns and cities across the US. FauxNews cracks on it hard while still supporting the Tea Party. Guess the idea is even going global.
God bless us, one and all.
ff
My personal belief is that too many people bought into the American Dream of material wealth and debt. I never was a capitalist and don't have a 401k retirement account. I think too many people are invested in the stock market and have to support the Beast. FOX News is a propaganda network for Wall Street and Businesses.
Naomi Klein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwEjHQ2LQxU
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A call for military personnel to march on DC on 11/11/11 - Veteran's Day for restoration of the Constitutional Republic:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/10/05/a-declaration-to-restore-the-constitutional-republic/
Interesting times.
ff
Interesting FF, but I am concerned that they link to the web site of Democratic Socialists, and imply that they are behind the occupy movement.
Also, why march on 11.11.11? Sounds like the powers that be using their number witchcraft again. They are trying to steal the movement but they cannot.
Eqypt is rising up again. Protests have been increasing in Israel.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15241257
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/04/israel-protests-social-justice
Of course, Pharaoh will remain obdurate.
Hi Dave, I didn't notice that about the link to the Democratic Socialists, but here is another link and of course, you can do your own search:
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/page/11-11-11-code-of-conduct?xgs=1&xg_source=facebook
November 11th is Veteran's Day. I believe that is why they have chosen that day to march.
'They' are not going down without a fight, but they WILL go down.
I read where the London protesters are chanting 'we are the 99 percent.'
Thanks for the links Dave, gotta check them out as soon as I get a chance.
Love and blessings always.
ff
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/page/11-11-11-code-of-conduct?xgs=1&xg_source=facebook
Sorry about the double link above.
But here is another one on the 11/11/11 military march:
http://www.veterandefenders.org/DECLARATION-RESTORE-THE-CONSTITUTIONAL-REPUBLIC.pdf
Interesting times.
ff
My concern with the march on 11/11/11 is it is the same old argument that Obama is not legitimate. When I read their declaration I got turned off. No matter what you think of President Obama he is legitimate and I am tired of the whole birth certificate fiasco. They are trying to take away from the Wall Street protest but they are too military minded and in my humble opinion worship the flag and country. Just do not agree with them or their march.
Thanks for the links FF. Nice to know what is going on with the right to upstage the wall street movement. I bet the corp Media will be all over it because it fits their agenda.
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Hmmmm....I am not getting that at all what you guys are saying. They are calling for an end to the Democratic Socialists and I didn't see anything about Obama's legitimacy. They want our Republic restored according to the Constitution.
ff
This is from the page..
We the people hereby demand
1.The immediate and unconditional orderly resignation of Barack Hussein Obama, II
2.The immediate and unconditional orderly resignation of Joseph R. Biden
In addition to the known fact that the Obama/Biden ticket was advanced by way of fraudulent representations concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama II, under Article II requirements for the office of President, the Obama/Biden has committed countless crimes against the U.S. Constitution, our Republican form of government and the American people while in control of the Executive Branch.
Also look on the side of the page articles by tag: here is a link on their site of one of the articles:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/10/05/america-will-be-destroyed-unless-patriots-act/
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Oh yes, I did read that, but I think the argument is legitimate. However worn out it may be, it has never been resolved. I don't care as much about that as the endless wars, endless lies and continued torture. How anyone can continue to like or support that is well beyond me.
ff
FF there is nothing wrong with questioning Obama's legitimacy if it is at all in question. However, I think Sandra and I smell a rat, that this may be a disinformation site. I cannot say for sure, but occupy is about corporate illegitmacy, and that is something we can all agree with.
Corporations can be taken down tomorrow. Their very existence depends upon the American people, since they were chartered here. There are no constitutional guarantees for their existence. We can legally amend their charters now if we could get out elected leaders to do so. It would be easy. Maybe its time to do so.
Good article:
http://coloneldespard.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/%E2%80%9Cwe-are-the-99-percent%E2%80%9D-movement-%E2%80%93-the-tea-party%E2%80%99s-over/
The right complains that occupy is Nazi, however the Tea Party are the real Brown Shirts.
I feel like this scripture is being fulfilled in our lifetime:
Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
Hey Dave, I know and I understand. It may well be a disinfo site and I apologize for that. I find it compelling that our military (if true) is willing to march against the establishment. Who should be more tired and weary of these endless wars than them.
Our elected leaders work for them - the Corporations. Why would they amend the charters?
Interesting times indeed.
ff
I cannot believe how quickly things are moving:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-leadership/occupy-wall-street-protests-and-the-decline-of-the-west/2011/10/10/gIQAst1NaL_story.html
Dave,
Thanks for one of the links that explained why when a speaker says a sentence the crowd repeats it. I was goggling trying to find out why that happens and your link explained it.
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No problem Sandra.
These days are getting pretty tricky. After more research I see that the military march being planned on 11/11/11 does not support the OWS protesters, actually they look down on them from what I can see, and they have a political agenda. No good and ain't having none of it and my apologies for the hastiness. I hope for the day when the men and women of the military are ready to make their own stand against endless war and imperialism.
Yes, then they will go away to eternal punishment...
Come Lord Jesus.
Fantastic verse choice, Sandra. Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow guys.
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
ff
Occupy Everywhere!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWw4E2uaM4&feature=channel_video_title
ff
Here's how the a hole Boston Police handle peaceful protests:
http://occupyboston.com/
This is my hometown. Shame on them. Notice the pictures of big police men arresting women and skinny college kids, throwing them to the ground as if they are dangerous thugs.
Guess what Boston Police, you all are paid Praetorian Guards for the Emperors of the misery we all live under. You come for us, but if the people lose, then someday they will come for you. And that day is coming soon, unless you stop obeying their orders.
If they were so concerned about the greenway, then they could have negotiated a way to get the occupiers to leave peridoically, or contribute to its clean up. But then, the greenway is not the issue. the issue is they want to control what is essentially a grassroots movement for change.
Great Job BPD.
http://rt.com/news/occupy-boston-police-brutality-545/
Good luck spinning this one.
I guess Russell Means was right, we are all on the reservation now!
Hi Dave and FF,
Thought you might like to see this. Natives addressing occupy wall street in Seattle. Now the majority know what Natives felt about greed because it is affecting all now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbx840cB3nk&feature=share
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Sandra, you are correct. The chickens have come home to roost.
Luther Standing Bear, Oglala Sioux Chief
Conversation was never begun at once, nor in a hurried manner. No one was quick with a question, no matter how important, and no one was pressed for an answer. A pause giving time for thought was the truly courteous way of beginning and conducting a conversation. Silence was meaningful with the Lakota, and his granting a space of silence to the speech-maker and his own moment of silence before talking was done in the practice of true politeness and regard for the rule that "thought comes before speech.
There is a road in the hearts of all of us, hidden and seldom traveled, which leads to an unkown, secret place. The old people came literally to love the soil, and they sat or reclined on the ground with a feeling of being close to a mothering power. Their teepees were built upon the earth and their altars were made of earth. The soul was soothing, strengthening, cleansing and healing. That is why the old Indian still sits upon the earth instead of propping himself up and away from its life giving forces. For him, to sit or lie upon the ground is to be able to think more deeply and to feel more keenly. He can see more clearly into the mysteries of life and come closer in kinship to other lives about him.
Dave,
Thank you for the beautiful words by Luther Standing Bear, Oglala Sioux Chief ♥
The world says 'what took you so long"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSdPtzQBWVs
They come in the dark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu63e7QD_5k
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Your welcome Sandra. Thank you, and FF, for your wonderful witness.
Great article. Occupy Denver has moved to recognize an Indigenous Platform. Boston has as well, but it is not as specific.
http://tehrantimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/3449
FF,
Sorry I did not read your post earlier. We are all in this together and something just did not feel right with that link. I am glad you did more research on the 11/11/11 march. It is easy to be fooled at times and it has happened to me more that once.
Blessings and love my sister♥
History....we do not celebrate Columbus Day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ck-Kq1cy98
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Awesome quote form occupy wall street:
Communism failed absolutely. But the problems of the commons are here. They are telling you we are not Americans here. But the conservative fundamentalists who claim they are really American have to be reminded of something. What is Christianity? It’s the Holy Spirit. What’s the Holy Spirit? It’s an egalitarian community of believers who are linked by love for each other. And who only have their own freedom and responsibility to do it. In this sense the Holy Spirit is here now. And down there on Wall Street there are pagans who are worshipping blasphemous idols. So all we need is patience. The only thing I’m afraid of is that we will someday just go home and then we will meet once a year, drinking beer, and nostalgically remembering what a nice time we had here. Promise ourselves that this will not be the case.
Interesting study on the 1%, or really the .01 %
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
I am coming to the conclusion that the American ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness were used by Jefferson and our other founding fathers during the revolution in order to inspire the masses to help them overthrow the King of England, and if they won, they had no intention of following through on its promise. They had no intention of creating a country where everyone was free to be happy, after all Jefferson and Washington had slaves, and the wars of conquest against the indigenous Americans was on. Women were denied their rights as well. However, you cannot sell a revolution without high-minded rhetoric. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Problem is, the genie got out of the bottle. They did not intend to advertise the liberation of humanity from tyranny, but it happened anyway. They did not intend to advertise that all are created equal in the eyes of their creator. The meme of freedom was broadcast by them, and it has taken 200 years, but now it is an idea whose time has come. The earth is shaking in anticipation.
The Psalmist tells us the Lord hears the cry of the poor. We are all the poor, since .01% of us own pretty much everything, including US, the people. We are owned. And democracy, or the plutocracy created by our founding fathers, which was meant to allow the founders to be free to live in happiness on the backs of our labor and sweat, is showing us its true face. I always wondered why these guys were Masons, if they believed in freedom for all men, and I finally realized that they only believed in freedom for SOME MEN, specifically THEM. WE were never part of the the discussion. Certainly Native people were never considered, and African slaves, and women. Nor my ancestors who immigrated from Ireland and Italy to be worker drones in their factories.
However, like the children of Israel in Egypt, our populations have grown to large to handle. Pharaoh is nervous, and is instructing the midwives to kill the newborn sons. They look to China as a model, a place where crony capitalism can exist with authoritarian rule. They now believe the charade of freedom which they have maintained for over 200 years, is not longer necessary. However, the Word will not return to the Lord void. It has gone forth, and will achieve its purpose.
Wrong link to previous post
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/12/national/main20119095.shtml
Another good article
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/03/10/the-rogue-nation/
Could this be the big one?
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/earth-science/geology/volcanic-red-alert-issued-as-residents-are-evacuated-from-el-hierro-town/41346.html
Hey Dave, I have been watching that and the earthquake and volcanic unrest in that area is phenomenal. The quakes are over 7,000 since July.
All is in the Lord's hands.
They are getting ready to start war with Iran soon too.
All is in the Lord's hands.
Love to all.
ff
I haven't had the chance to watch these video clips yet, but am posting them because of the title and recent discussion of the Canary Islands and tsunami threat:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1222/660/Tsunami_El_Hierro_Tsunami_-_World_War_3_-_Moon_-_Videos--Part_1_2.html
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
Romans 5:1-5 (KJV)
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
5And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
Amen. How great is our God.
ff
Short youtube video on "I am not moving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGRXCgMdz9A
Someone hacked into this celebrity site and changed the comments with the pictures:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/celebrity-photos/celebrity-photos-of-the-week-oct-12/article2197635/
Too funny....
Thanks for the smiles, Dave.
On another note, the world is shaking and quaking. Indonesia has had a strong quake today and the coast of Oregon also has had a pretty strong quake. El Hierro continues unabated and Katla is growing restless:
http://news.yahoo.com/icelands-katla-volcano-getting-restless-072154594.html
A time like no other is well upon us and I rejoice, I give thanks and I am in awe of our amazing God.
Praise His holy name on high.
ff
More rage against the machine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=w211KOQ5BMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSpO2B6G4s
Theres something happening here.
Dave,
Like the song...thank you.
This explains the white shirt police on wall street:
http://antipasministries.com/other/article186.htm
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Thanks Sandra,
Here is a funny old bit from Monty Python:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=19fcN3VaXs4
nypd arrest bank customers for wanting to close accounts
http://wonkette.com/454855/nypd-arrests-woman-for-closing-her-citibank-account-video
Consciousness rising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2CGCSRQoxHo#!
Check out this image:
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/occupy101711/s_o30_15113728.jpg
The dove of the Holy Spirit flying over the image of a bull (golden calf) with guy fawkes masks on its ears. Wow.
If you are one of those who are wondering, why do they protest, here is why
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/298428_188782294533729_178047252273900_400281_1851150791_n.jpg
It is the money that is causing the corruption. View this rant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJKFw2Lk92g
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Interview with author Chris Hedges on the Occupy Wall Street movement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj8UlxhfJLw
This is a article dealing with MoveOn.Org that author Chris Hedges mentions in the interview above.....think I got dubbed in this by doing the virtual march. opps!!!!
http://truth-out.org/moveonorg-and-friends-attempt-co-opt-occupy-wall-street-movement/1318259708
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Yeah moveon is a dem front, but don't feel bad because we can use them to get our message out.
Great links Sandra. Good time to be alive.
Great video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvjoWOwnn4&feature=related
Good video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2itUVZmsRI&feature=related
Part 4 is very good as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPv2XcimRmw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Great video. Very enlightening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLNPQDdopFw
Very interesting times we live in:
http://www.lovethetruth.com/truth_about_money.htm
Time is ripe for a new economic system.
Funny..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=wEKlj-vu1Fw
Hi Dave, Thanks for the link even though personally I am not a rap fan. I could not even understand the song until I found the song with lyrics.....LOL maybe my age is showing. Have a peaceful evening both you and FF. Think I will participate in the virtual on-line protest on Wednesday that FF posted a link too.
Dave, Thanks for one of the links that explained why when a speaker says a sentence the crowd repeats it. I was goggling trying to find out why that happens and your link explained it. ♥♥♥
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