The Republican party and the mainstream "Conservative" church have become hopelessly addicted to one another. The relationship between these two groups reminds me of the unfaithful wife and her lover, as described in Proverbs and elsewhere in scripture. No good has come of this relationship, and no good ever can. The world has already witnessed how the religious right-wing handles power: with unquestioning devotion to their leadership, and vile contempt for their political adversaries. Unfortunately, there are also many Obama supporters today who have followed the conservative example, and are just about as deep in their own political trench.
The fact is that political trench warfare which defines modern American politics started with members of the right wing whispering about some sort of "vast left-wing conspiracy" against the Republican party. Because of this unfounded rumor, the religious right banded together, voted in blocks, and vowed to destroy their democratic adversaries. By creating the phantom menace of a vast left wing conspiracy, an actual right wing conspiracy was born; its purpose was to win at any cost, which happened in the stolen 2000 Presidential race. Now the same accusatory tactic is being used in dealing with scriptures. The argument made on Conservapedia makes it seem as though there is a vast left wing conspiracy in translating the scriptures. They are working to rally the troops in making a Conservative Bible by outlandishly claiming that Liberal Bibles already exist. There is strong evidence that the spirit behind conservative Christianity is not the spirit of Truth. A by-product of political trench war-fare is a filter of bias that clouds the judgement on both sides; the reason is impaired, and chances of changing course go way down. In other words, turning the political arena into a battlefield makes it very difficult for people to go through the process of repentance.
Various definitions of sinful behavior come from scripture. The process of repentance is described in detail from many perspectives in the Bible. The tricks of the devil's trade: his tactics and strategies are exposed in the Bible. It is from studying the Bible that I have come to realize that the mainstream conservative church has fallen into the hands of the enemy of God. Conservatives who have followed the fold, and remain largely ignorant of the information contained in the Bible are lost without the guidance and correction that is offered through the Bible. What is being proposed in creating a "Conservative Bible" is a way to bypass the glaring discrepancies between what scriptures teach, and what many conservatives believe. The idea that such a translation could be made without completely butchering the entire Bible is laughable. But Conservapedia is attempting to do just that.
I believe the Republican party is an interloper that is figuratively in bed with the unfaithful wife known as the church. When on the mountaintop, Jesus refused to be given complete power in the world because he could only obtain it through spiritual infidelity: worshipping another over God. I believe that the modern church was given a similar choice, and chose worldly power and affluence over the course of faithfulness. In America today, churches are everywhere; compare this modern fact to Ezekiel 16:24-25 which says,
"You build a mound for yourself and make a lofty shrine in every public square. At the head of every street you built your lofty shrines and degraded your beauty, offering your body with increasing promiscuity to anyone who passes by".Furthermore, the conservative mainstream church gives the Republican party votes, the only currency that matters to the GOP, and has done so for decades. In exchange for this, the Republican party has delivered nothing but lip-service in return. No laws re-banning abortion, no real steps taken to abolish gay rights (which are the two main hot-button issues of the religious right). Every voting season the Republican party brings these issues out of storage, and uses fear and promises to obtain millions of votes from church-goers across America, but the politicians never deliver on their promises. This, too has striking resemblance to Ezekiel 16: 32-34:
"You adulterous wife! You prefer strangers to your own husband! Every prostitute receives a fee, but you give gifts to all your lovers, bribing them to come to you from everywhere for your illicit favors. So in your prostitution you are the opposite of others: no one runs after you for your favors. You are the very opposite, for you give payment and none is given to you".It is the responsibility of all Christians who are not under the spell that has hypnotized the religious right to stand up against such things as "the Conservative Bible", and to boldly hold powerful and persuasive church leaders accountable to the various ways that they consistently violate Biblical commands. That such misguidance has been allowed to flourish is evidence that we are very near the time of God's judgment. But judgment begins with the church.
Romans 13:10
"Give everyone what you owe him: if you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, pay revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. Let no debt be outstanding, except the continuous debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, "Do not commit adultery" "Do not murder" "Do not steal" "Do not envy" and whatever other commandments there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself" Love does no harm to its neighbor, therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.Passages like these do sound suspiciously liberal. That fact should be an alarm to self-proclaimed Christians who subscribe to conservative principles. The warning signs and red flags that saturate scriptures against a selfish conservative spirit cannot be ironed out as mere wrinkles. To do so would be to close off the only escape from a labyrinth of dogma and emotionality. The only way to love misguided religious conservatives is to explain to them the error of their ways, using scripture. The spirit that would inspire a Conservative Bible is the adversary of Christ.
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Great post YB, well written. Unfortunately, the hypocrties never cease their war against the truth, which God is allowing in order to bring them to their ruin.
Truer words are seldom spoken...'the hypocrites never cease their war against the truth.'
Amen to both of you. While they will never cease their war against the truth, their audacity of it increases and this is a prime example of it. The beast is beginning to show his fangs and most of the world is still following after the beast and doing so in the name of the Lord. I would be curious to see what the ratio is in support verses non-support and I am guessing we are out-numbered again. (but that's just fine because we are not weak like they think we are but quite the opposite; just wait and see).
I looked at some of the translated verses from a link within the link which was my first exposure to this farce and while some of the translations seem subtle and harmless, they are changing God's words and we all know what that leads to. It's interesting that it is the King James Version that they are using for the foundation for their (mis)translation.
Iran has had an exlopsion with at least 50 deaths and no report on how many injured (prayers for all the innocents) and is threatening retaliation to the US and Britain. And voila, the stage for the next false flag to be blamed on Iran is set with the lights dimming now and the curtain is starting to go up (or down), as the case may be - depending on your perspective, for the the beginning of the end of this world as we think we know it. As always, the Lord comforts and reassures us in His holy word and He tells us that He will not delay. This is more than sufficient for me.
While 'they' never cease, may we also never cease in growing with love and adoration for our incredibly amazing Savior Jesus Christ for all that He has done and all that is to come.
The people that would support this 'conservative' Bible are indeed of the same spirit as those who sought to kill our Lord and they also would not mind the death of anyone who would oppose their viewpoints. They desire to persecute us now in the same way. Their hatred for 'liberals' is a rabid hatred and will only intensify as we get closer to Jesus' return.
I do indeed hope that this is evidence that we are getting close to Judgment Day. I am certainly begging for mercy, but I long for the end to this evil that has come upon the earth, and come what may, so it can pass and be gone forever and ever.
Hebrews 10:25 (King James Version)
25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Amen.
Members of the highest council that designed the master plan of Earth’s Golden Age have been observing the pace of flux in the collective consciousness, and they have agreed that the day is nearing when the presence of your celestial brotherhood must become widely known. There are “open windows,” universally speaking, that offer the leaps in consciousness and spiritual clarity that enable a civilization to ascend into a higher density. These windows have opened for Earth’s peoples before, but they closed because the darkness that permeated the planet prevented the peoples from looking up at the stars instead of down at “feet of clay.” This is the time of another open window, and as ordained by the Supreme Being of this universe, Earth will fly through on her way into the higher densities where love, peace and harmony is the basis of life. In her love for all her resident souls, she wants them to go with her.
Measured progress is necessary to meet the energetic timeline of any open window, and much must be accomplished before this one closes around the end of your year 2012. Again, Earth’s soaring through and onward to her destination in fifth density is assured—it is up to individual souls to chart their own journey. The tenacious resistance of the dark minds among you has managed to keep a lid on the massive deception that has kept the peoples in bondage for millennia. The dark forces knows it has lost the war for global domination, but its battle continues for individuals who have not heeded their souls’ intuitive messages to “see the light.” The current strategy of the puppets of darkness is to stir up anger, confusion and divisiveness—the antithesis of the spirit that can see and seize opportunities for benevolent change—and even as tiny bits of pervasive corruption and depravity seep into headlines, a great deal still is operating to keep the masses deceived, suppressed and consciously asleep.
Because that is not in keeping with Earth’s desire for her beloved souls, the master planning council in conjunction with spiritually evolved beings among you decided to reverse the order of two major parts of the plan. Originally it was thought that exposure of the dark ones’ controlling hand in myriad worldly matters would arouse the sleepers and then there would be the revelation that newcomers from distant lands have come to help you clean up the mess your world is in. But awakening of the masses isn’t happening as quickly as need be and time is of the essence, so it has been agreed to jolt the many sound sleepers with something that cannot miss getting everyone’s attention—your governments acknowledging that other intelligent beings are in the universe.
Matthew's message 10 19 09
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It is a joy for us to see how many of you have made a positive response to the coming announcement about our existence. We do not really need much in the way of publicity to reach people. The presence of our craft and the many contacts made over the last 50 years, have ensured that we have a place in your minds. What it will achieve is official recognition, that will sweep away the cover-ups and false stories about us. Those of you that accept us have no difficulty in finding all of the proof that you need. However, many people have blindly followed the rejection of us by those who have no desire to move on, or welcome a new Age. Humans do get into fixed modes that make them feel comfortable, and they become very insular. Events can no longer wait for them to raise their consciousness levels, as certain changes must commence very shortly. Moving you into a new paradigm requires many changes, and it is essential that they start in accordance with the Divine Plan.
When the truth of our reasons for contacting you is known, it will offer a lifeline to those who see no future for Humanity. Suddenly your souls will be uplifted by the promise of a way out of the chaos deliberately put upon you. We are allowed to help you as your spiritually appointed mentors, and because the cycle of duality is coming to an end. You are not meant to see out this period by yourselves, and the plan has always allowed for guidance and direction so that you arrive at your true destination. Ascension is simply upliftment into the higher vibrations of the Universe, and it means that you will be part of it unless through choice you decide not to participate. However, as simple as it sounds it has far reaching effects, and nothing will be quite the same again. It is a wonderful event that allows you to move into the beauty and peace of the higher dimensions. It comes as your right, and is an opportunity that will not come around again for thousands of years.
Start preparing in your minds for the changes that are inevitable once we can arrive openly amongst you. You will be kept informed of what is taking place, and with our assistance you can be sure that there will no area on Earth that is without contact. We can if necessary superimpose messages onto your television sets, without using your conventional means of doing so. Once our plans are widely known, there will be few if any that will object to the upliftment that will be taking place. To gain the return of your freedom will in its self be a major achievement. Big Brother may be breathing down your neck, but we will curtail their covert operations and plans for greater control over you. Knowing this we hope you will take a broader view of what is happening, and not allow concern or worry to enter your minds. Certainly do not react to the news that speaks of the need to introduce martial law, as fear is like a cancer and spreads quickly. Rise to the challenge and cover it with your Light, and you will be helping restrict its power to entrap people.
SaLuSa
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WHAT??
"It is a joy for us to see how many of you have made a positive response to the coming announcement about our existence."
Who are you my friend if I may humbly ask?
I for one am not ready to welcome anyone except the King Of Kings and Lord Of Lords - Jesus Christ, who is going to come in His Glory.
YB, good to hear from you. Been a while! Speaking of bible, the enemy has done a lot of damage. I believe this is not new. Reading through the NIV, you would be amazed how many verses from the bible especially from the Gospels have been removed and altered.
FF, you are absolutely right. That dreadful day of the Lord is fast approaching. Indeed, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, speaks volume. Thanks for your diligence and whachfulness. You've been my inspiration and encouragement all along this journey.
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
Annon
I for another am not ready, willing or able to accept or welcome anyone (or anything) other than the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Indeed, Annon, He that is coming in all His glory when every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that He is God. Even though I try repeatedly to imagine what the great and awful day of the Lord will be like, I know I cannot begin to fathom other than it will be more glorious and greater than anything I can imagine, and I am content to wait patiently and longingly with love and servitude for the One we worship and adore. Whenever the hour arrives, it will be perfect. This I know for certain.
H1N1 is beginning to make a show in my area and some schools are starting to close. I have a relative who was fine when we spoke on the phone recently and two days later he was hospitalized for H1N1 and one week later he is not much better and still in the hospital. Reports of people allegedly dropping dead from it are emerging. I keep hearing how people are getting so scared and all I tell them is "God does not give a spirit of fear."
Murders have spiked in my area in the last two weeks and they expect that it is likely to get worse before it gets better. Reports of domestic violence are up as well as people cannot make ends meet and one wonders just how bad it will have to get. Soon we may not have to be carrying on anymore like things are normal and we can finally shout from the rooftops and there might be someone that will actually hear us. All the glory to God.
The explosion that took place in Iran was a high security meeting which killed a couple of their high security officers and this is why Iran claims that they know it had to be the US and Britain because of the intelligence operation for which they are vowing quick retribution. I heard someone say yesterday that 'Iran did it to themselves just to blame us for it.'
There is so much work to be done and it is going to be so exciting. I love assembling ourselves together in His precious holy name and cannot wait when we don't have to tear ourselves away.
Thank you Annon, for your diligence and watchfulness as well my brother who I love so much. He has made us one, has He not? What an incredible thing to be a part of and the blessing of being used by Him to inspire and encourage you is a humbling and joyous feeling with all thanks and praise and glory to Him who has made us one. Surely, it is a foretaste of the feast to come and it brings hunger pains for more - this oneness. Imagine...being all together with the Lord in our presence drinking wine with us with no strangers, only saints new and old, and everything in this life pales in comparison to this moment that is to come when we are changed in the twinkling of an eye. Our God is so amazing. Until then, our world is heading full speed ahead towards all things being revealed and I don't want to miss a thing.
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Israel_US_start_major_joint_air_def_10212009.html
What you do to the least of me, you do to me also---Jesus
....might apply to any welcome as well...the last messenger was also not welcomed by many, arriving as he did in the form of a common man.
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Update on the attack in Iran by Al-Jazeera:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23779.htm#
The conflict is escalating and Afghanistan is telling Pakistan that the attacks will not stop and to make a choice between the US and Afghanistan. There is so much unrest in the world.
Hurricane Rick has been downgraded to a tropical storm which has many breathing a sigh of relief and that is a good thing.
Love and peace to all.
It just keeps getting better and better - all things being revealed. Interesting article:
http://rawstory.com/2009/10/shoes-fly-bush-tells-audience-i-sell-soul/
Stay blessed and keep looking up for our redemption is drawing near. Cant'cha hear Jesus calling...
Love and prayers to all.
Official Disclosure of Extraterrestrial Life is Imminent
An official announcement by the Obama administration disclosing the reality of extraterrestrial life is imminent. For several months, senior administration officials have been quietly deliberating behind closed doors how much to disclose to the world about extraterrestrial life. Dissatisfaction among powerful institutions such as the U.S. Navy over the decades-long secrecy policy has given a boost to efforts to disclose the reality of extraterrestrial life and technology.
The impending disclosure announcement follows upon the secret implementation of a year long openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life. Over the period February 12-14, 2008, the United Nations held closed doors discussions where approximately 30 nations secretly agreed on a new openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life in 2009. The openness policy was implemented but never publicly announced due to threats against UN diplomats not to disclose details of the secret agreement. The secret UN agreement was based on two conditions. First, UFOs would continue to appear around the world; and second, the openness policy would not lead to social unrest in liberal democracies. Both conditions have been satisfied making it possible for the next stage to begin – official disclosure of extraterrestrial life.
Obama’s September 24, 2009 chairing of the UN Security Council meeting on nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament, signaled his emerging leadership role in tackling major global issues such as nuclear weapons. The Nobel Peace Prize was an important step in giving global legitimacy to President Obama in making an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement. Obama is therefore poised to play a prominent role in the increased global governance that will be necessary after an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement. The timing would most likely coincide sometime soon after his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech on December 10, 2009 in Oslo, Norway.
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There have been various sources that have revealed deliberations are underway to make an announcement concerning the existence of extraterrestrial life by the end of 2009. These include, Dr Pete Peterson, a whistleblower who has recently emerged revealing high level discussions have taken place concerning announcing the existence of extraterrestrial life. In a Project Camelot interview, Dr Peterson revealed that “Obama is planning to disclose the reality of ET contact by the end of the year; and that most, but not all, of the ET visitors are friendly.”
Another source is David Wilcock, a prominent researcher of emerging scientific paradigms. Wilcock has been told by additional independent sources that extraterrestrial disclosure will take place by the end of 2009. He furthermore claimed in a Coast to Coast AM radio interview that “a 2-hour international TV special has already been booked that will introduce an alien species, similar to humans, to the world.”
In addition, popular NASA and space researcher, Richard Hoagland, has publicly come forward to reveal that the October 9, LCROSS ‘bombing’ mission of the moon, discovered an ancient base at the moon’s South Pole. Reviewing the scientific data achieved by NASA’s LCROSS mission, Hoagland concluded, also on the popular late night Coast to Coast AM radio show, that “LCROSS is part of a carefully constructed campaign to prepare the populace for imminent disclosure. The President of the United States will soon announce that scientists have discovered ruins on the moon, he added. Nobody saw the LCROSS debris plume because the probes struck a building which swallowed the effects of the explosion.”
Finally, two independent and confidential sources have revealed to me that face to face meetings have recently occurred between U.S. military officials with one or more groups of extraterrestrial visitors. This has allegedly led to confidence being built for future cooperation with the extraterrestrials that will be formally announced to the world public either at the end of 2009, or early 2010.
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In conclusion, a diverse number of sources and events point to some form of extraterrestrial disclosure being made by the end of 2009, or early 2010. Official disclosure will most likely emerge in either of two scenarios. One is that President Obama will announce the existence of extraterrestrial visitors, and describe one or more of these to the world. This scenario is supported by Peterson, Wilcock, and my own confidential sources. The second scenario is that an announcement will be made concerning the discovery of artificial structures at the moon’s South Pole, as revealed by the LCROSS mission. This scenario is supported by Hoagland.
Which ever of the above scenarios is used for announcing the existence of extraterrestrial life or technology, President Obama will figure prominently. Behind the scenes, powerful institutions are ensuring that nothing derails the planned disclosure announcement. The disclosure will follow upon a year of greater government openness on UFOs in accord with a policy secretly developed at the United Nations. If extraterrestrial disclosure does occur at the end of 2009 or early 2010, President Obama will lead an unprecedented effort to promote global governance through the United Nations. The Obama administration and its supporters are poised to take a bold step forward in helping our planet become an interplanetary culture that openly deals with the challenges posed by extraterrestrial life.
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This is not a big deal. I have a question for everyone. What does Torah and bible say about ET? Or any other life form out of human form of life? Any verses you can reflect here please?
Keep the faith,
Ali,
Greetings fellow earthlings,
Late last night Obama signed into effect a H1N1 National Emergency that allows federal requirements to be sidestepped in dealing with the disease. Whatever that means...the reports are that the National Guard can be called in to quell and deal with 'chaos' by the lack of vaccinations. The CDC reports that there are over 1 million people that have it or have had it and there are now over 1,000 deaths.
If there are ET's and they are more intelligent than us, why in the world would they want to live on this weary planet?!
We went through a phase where parents were killing their offspring and now we are seeing reports of younger and younger kids killing, raping and setting other kids on fire - and allegedly laughing about it.
If I was an ET, I would go to another galaxy before I willingly landed here, so maybe they are not that intelligent after all.
I cannot believe in anything I cannot see other than the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I cannot say they do not exist because I do not know, but I cannot believe in them until I see them no matter what is said or done regarding them. It seems most likely 'they' want us to believe they are real for some unknown reason that will serve their purpose.
As with all things, time will tell and everything will be revealed.
Hi Ali,
Great question. Concerning the Bible, to my knowledge, there is NO mention of extraterrestrials.
Keein' the faith.
Strong quake in Indonesia:
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Strong_7_3_magnitude_earthquake_rat_10242009.html
Thanks FF,
I would have gone to another galaxy too at least for a while, cause humanity is getting crazy!
I just counted the number of verses in which direct ET references are made in Holy Quran: 22 cases from prophet Solomon's encounter with them to God's command to prophet Mohammad to cite whole Quran for them in one sitting!
(), I told you this is not a big deal. We have been told before. We don't need UN or Smart class stupid elite to tell us any story. Please tell your sources that they have to paint themselves with their own bullshits. We don't buy that kind of stuff here.
Keep the faith,
Ali,
As before, everything will be revealed, but sometimes a forewarning can serve a good purpose:
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1539-Possible-Credit-Dislocation-Be-Warned.html
God does not give us a spirit of fear. Keep trusting Him and all His ways. For just as surely as the enemy has a plan, our Lord knows everything. Love and prayers.
You are the Ones that are paving the way to a new era, and soon you shall see the first benefits arising from it. As we have told you on a number of occasions, it is the right time to claim back what is rightly yours. You have been controlled in many ways over a long time, and without a change of direction would be totally at the mercy of the dark forces. Now you have a world leader who will take heart from the people’s support, and make decisions that will clearly be seen as establishing a peaceful period in human experience. We know what is in his heart, and he only waits for the opportunity to show what he can do. You are crying out for his spiritual perception to show itself and be translated into action, and it will come.
The changes that are coming are known in detail to us, and they will sweep away the dross and remnants of a period that will be best forgotten. Just everything that has been denied you will be now given to you. Freedom is to be yours, but it will follow reconciliation with other countries when the foundation of world peace is laid down. Duality is no longer to be your way of life, as it has carried you far enough in this cycle. You are now stepping up to a new level, and will enjoy a life of happiness and joy free from the stress and worries you now experience. Everything you need to be comfortable and safe, and able to enjoy your freedom will come to everyone. The provisions to enable all of these commitments to be met will be handled by us. Indeed, we are ready now and your future is assured.
Each one of you can contribute to bringing peace to your planet, by living your peace now and holding it within your self. Try to be in a position of acceptance of what goes on around you and be non-judgmental. It does not mean that you condone what is considered to against the best interests of everyone. Give your energy to your vision of what it is you desire to replace it, and you will help attract it into manifestation. Where you all are now is your creation, and you can change it with the will and intent to do so. We can paint the picture for you, but it is in your minds that it takes shape and becomes your reality. The conditions are changing as the new vibrations lift you up, and increase your opportunity to partake in the movement to speed them up. There is a plan that is somewhat fluid and each milestone will be met, but exactly when is very much up to your endeavors in bringing the Light to Earth.
However, our role is instrumental in seeing that you reach a certain stage of preparation, and are ready for the wonderful event of Ascension. Its success will be your greatest achievement since you undertook to experience duality. It is to be your homecoming, and return to those higher levels that are the first steps back to dimensions from whence you came. It will be a quantum leap forward, that shall see you take your place in the Light and Love that permeates such levels. It is the stuff of dreams that shall prove the reality of your visions, where all exists in utter joy and harmony. It may be looked upon as a reward, but you have earnt it through your application of self to the Laws of the Universe. You have attracted the Light that in turn has lifted up your vibrations. That path is open to any soul who desires to complete their time in the lower dimension, and is dedicated to returning to the Light.
SaLuSa
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Occult nonsense.
Ali.
Occult:
Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena.
Beyond the realm of human comprehension; inscrutable.
Available only to the initiate;
Hidden from view; concealed.
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That's the point; your whole mindset is poisoned with WRONG definitions.
We, well at least I, don't consider this stuff supernatural or Beyond the realm of human comprehension ...But the way YOU are projecting it is indeed an occult. For me it is normal and its as natural as the rest of the things lord has saith in Holy Quran .
The fact that matters is, You and your kind want to make something out of this story in case of any event. You guys are a handful of opportunists pursuing your own interests which is ultimately deceiving and exploiting masses in a different way; this time maybe in a STAR WARS way.
I told you, we don't buy this kind of stuff here. Go sell your story somewhere people buy.
Ali.
Ali:
You bite the hand that feeds you... I come to take a thorn from your side, no need to lash out in anger at what you do not understand.
Unless you wish to admit you have hijacked this comment section, I suggest you do not use 'we', as I know the members of this forum as well as anyone here. I have nothing to sell, merely offer a heads-up to the stragglers that have fallen into snares.
You may want to re-read Young Brother's words and ponder what the dangers of conservative thought are during this period of intense change that is upon us. He is not just speaking about Republicans/Fundamentalist Christians.
FF:
Drop the fear tactic, it is counterproductive. You have poisoned you own heart with a deep cynicism that has moved you away from your God center and reduced you to uttering wishful platitudes. If you desire to be with the Christ you cannot place yourself at the head of the table, at his right hand, while failing to see the good in people. The darkness has been defeated, and the messenger stands in plain view.
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What thorn are you talking about? what side? You sound to me like a spiritual "new age" fellow I had who didn't believe in religion or God. LOVE is not the answer!! God is the ONLY answer.
Religion has laws; Muslims for themselves, Christians for their own. This does not work with the "force" or "May the force be with you" phrase. I insist that what "we" believe in, is different from what a man-made occult doctrine like yours (a so-called religion about LOVE) is about.
You are a marketeer of phrases like "the foundation of world peace is laid down" and blah blah. This is pure lie(). You can't fool the people with the message of love and in the meanwhile plan to attack their cities and bomb their children or stage a coup in Tehran or exploit their properties or their minds. You are the marketeer of such a brutal system but you have only changed the package design.
You are history to me. You are dead (). Your trick doesn't work here even if you and your fellow ETs march in a parade at NY. In the meantime, I & many others would be volunteers to help you and your friends leave this planet!
Harsh! isn't it?
Ali.
1 Corinthians 13
Love
1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Interesting....I thought Jesus taught love. Love your neighbor, Love you enemies. Following Jesus means we have to love and have compassion. Mocking love is not the answer. When we follow God and his commandments we are showing LOVE. So loving God and loving your neighbor is following Jesus and his ways. Love is the answer.
The Greatest Commandment (Mark 12:28 - 12:34)
28One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"
29"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'[b] 31The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[c]There is no commandment greater than these."
32"Well said, teacher," the man replied. "You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices."
34When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.
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Is it you that is this 'messenger that stands in plain view?'
You ARE God, and Love IS the answer.
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I am not THE messenger...but I am A messenger. You must decide who THE messenger is for you.
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Each of you has been experiencing increased feelings of well being and joy. This is excellent for keeping your energy and frequency levels high and this will continue to develop each day and soon this will be the natural state of being for each of you. You will always walk your Path with calmness and equilibrium. There is a growing sense of excitement in the air and there is an anticipation of something wonderful happening soon. We feel this from our stations too. Much will be taking place both on the Etheric levels and upon the Earth. Change is the natural order of things now. The momentum of the increased Light cannot be stopped now so be prepared to walk around in a constant state of bliss and joy!
Know that all is coming together to a point of stillness, what is referred to as zero point. This is a new territory for all and so we watch and see the probabilities and possibilities unfolding. This is a most exciting time, not only for the Earth and all Her inhabitants, but also for the entire Universe. Every Star Nation has members observing and ready to assist us at any time. As we have told you before, you are all considered Heroes in all ways, for it took great courage to come down to the lower dimensions and agree to forget your Divine origin. Soon remembrance will be upon you all. The Light upon the Earth that each Human Being is will Light up the entire World and all will be changed to the positive. There will no longer be any place left for darkness to hide. All will be exposed to the Light and the truth.
Hillarion
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We are being transformed into His image, but we are NOT God.
2 Corinthians 3:10-18 (King James Version)
10For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
12Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Amen.
Do not confuse the Creator and God...we can become (as) God but we will never become the Creator.
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You said: "You ARE God, and Love IS the answer."
Now you say: ..."we can become (as) God but we will never become the Creator."
So, if we can become as God, that makes us God by your own words. Becoming as is not the same thing as being God. There is only one true God. He comes to us as the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Jesus is incarnate of the Father, making them ONE, and all things were created for Him and by Him (Jesus), and since Jesus is God, the Creator is God as well, my friend.
FF:
Let us instead argue how many Angels fit on the head of a pin...that would be more fruitful and less likely to be a semantic wild goose chase. Your circular logic has the created and the Creator as being one and the same, each preceding the other...no sane rationalizations can penetrate such reasoning.
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The 'circular logic' as you call it, is the truth. The created ones, us earthlings, are of a fallen creation...as yet; hence the many imperfections in mankind. Just as there are varying degrees of evil, I believe there are varying degrees of Holy Spirit poured out as blessings according to one's desires of the heart that only God can know.
I still am not quite sure what to make of you or what you make of yourself for that matter, but I think enough time has been wasted on confusion in this weary world of which you are creating more of.
The declared National State of Emergency trumps our Bill of Rights which means we have no rights at all. Right here, right now, we have no rights, no say about what they would impose on us, only detention for being 'against them.' More banks have closed in the last two weeks and it may well be a harbringer of what is to soon come upon us. It is not with a spirit of fear that we remain watchful, but with reassurance and comfort that all His words are true. Everything that is happening is so in line with The Holy Bible sometimes it is hard to see why people do not understand this is all written about long ago and it is coming to pass before our eyes. While we are living on this planet, we would do well to be aware of the physical plan that is being set before us since it may affect each and every one of us while knowing that it is the spiritual plan that trumps their plan. Yes, they are already defeated, but they are still very much among us. I only fear the One who can judge my soul. I can watch and endure without fear because He is with me.
Love and peace to all.
Hello (),
Interesting posts to say the least. I am enjoying reading them. Question, if the first contact you refer to is a true one, and meant to assist in the ascension of the human race, then how can we be sure that it is not an invasion? After all, it appears that the Anunaki invaded millenia ago and taught us how to be slaves and to be trapped in this material density for their benefit, and the benefit of the Serpent Seed. What sign can you give that the visitors are not just another, perhaps more advanced invasion force?
Maybe () is really Pegalys. His new site he recently shared sounds very similar to the current comments:
http://pathtonormality.blogspot.com/
I will agree there is positive change coming. After the fire and a time of testing, peace will reign forever and ever.
The Lord is the only light unto my path, the rock on which I stand and I cannot be shaken. The Lord has promised to send us the spirit of Elijah before His return and this is more than sufficient for me and nothing else will suffice if it is not from the Lord.
What great things are in store for us. I enjoyed this article about Elijah and Elisha and wanted to share it:
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=The+Spirit+of+Elijah&page=1&qsrc=0&ab=5&title=Spirit+of+Elijah+-+The+Restoration+of+God%27s+Children&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sosbbs.com%2F%7Eejhintz%2FJRTSOE.htm&sg=5Ahi0Yl8N3UPJqzUa1TtSqb21uLFpOirJQIzwheU2L0%3D&tsp=1256531300664
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
NathanDave
The problem is, that when the moment of first contact arrives, we will be required to make contact with ALL external civilizations, even those of questionable motives. The Forces of Light have been preparing many on earth to understand the difference, because there can be no such thing as an invasion using coercion or force. Such an unwelcome intervention is forbidden, as freewill is supreme in the settled universe, and we have to invite in ANY outside assistance, good or bad. They (Dark civilizations) are permitted to use any form of trickery, persuasion and even intimidation, as long as it is non-violent, and results in the majority of the planet aquiessing...ergo- wierd religions, corrupt political parties, decadent societies, etc.
Clearly the Light cannot stoop to such subterfuge, and must win our hearts and minds using the highest form of enlightenment...obviously a lot tougher!
The battle for our allegiance has been heating up lately, and the result will be the complete expulsion of darkness from the planet. That battle has been won, but not everyone is on board at this time, and many will fail to make the required changes in time to avoid another round of incarnational cycles somewhere suitable to their state of advancement.
There are several sites that one can follow to keep up with the changes, but since they are receiving input from outside (off planet) sources, they cannot favor any particular religion, and have to present the facts impartially and even-handed.
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You are spinning the truth!
Jesus would never tell anybody to sit blindly in front of the most ruthless organized system of usury and war which is becoming much more global by every passing day. We are not talking about our aunt's neighbors here (). Neither this site is about how to deal with your neighbors. Even if it was then, what could be more essential in dealing with neighbors than the word of God?? !! (and not love)
You see LOVE is a tactic which might be used depending on the situation and the person. Would you go and LOVE the person who entirely has killed your innocent family for example??? When you know that he would even kill more of them in the future??? Seee! Doesn't work!
(), Finally your baseless arguments will disintegrate when you realize that God is the one who will bring us back to life for the judgement day. Can YOU bring me back for the judgement day or can you bring the judgement day for us???
You are advocating spirituality: a series of artificial man-made faiths that follows the absurd idea of becoming part of God. This school of thought neither holds an understanding of human being, nor any idea about God. Its pure darkness. Welcome to pure darkness ().
If Christianity, Islam or Judaism has received any kind of influence from this school of thought, it is our duty to make it straight and separate the truth from the lie. God will ask us about what we did in our life regarding this discursion.
Ali.
Loving one's enemy is not easy, it is proabably the hardest thing that we are required to do as humans. It is also a wildly misunderstood concept: Jesus did not advocate a sort of naive follishness, but an active, engaging love that sought the conversion of the sinner as well as the supposed "righteous ones" who felt no need of forgiveness. So he confronted the hypocrites and spoke harsh truth, and he embraced the outcast and spoke words of comfort. All for good.
Our Father is righteous and seeks our good at all times. Evil appears powerful, but it is not because it is founded upon an illusion. There really is no evil, only inifinte goodness and love: evil is a parastie, a virus, which feeds off of good to allow its existence. When we stop feeding it, it will finally die.
Problem is, we all think we have faith, but we do not. Do we really trust God to give us good things, or do we expect him to punish us and test us? Because what you believe becomes reality, it becomes the god you worship.
Just some thoughts, hope everyone is well.
ND
There is a good line of dialog in this movie called "The prince of Egypt" where Moses tells Pharaoh "What you say does not matter". This of course represents the notion that no matter what you think about including God, the nature and the existence of that thing or in this case our Lord is completely separate and detached from your beliefs, imaginations, ideas and finally our perception of the world.
Thank you Nathandave for bringing this out:
LOVE is a subjective measure, it is not quantifiable and it is highly related to the taste of the subject. However, God's way is an objective way of dealing with life. It's an absolute truth. It doesn't have fluctuations.
A more or less valid criticism which is always made regarding Christian history (This does NOT include Prophet Jesus and his disciples, but the followers) is that if they had dealt with discursions and deviations more seriously than to choose "love", we all could have had better world for living today. Same also applies to other faiths.
But history has gone and passed. We have to think about the future. Future, though, is serious. Stakes are high. Evil takes the advantage of any underestimation. Sometimes sacrifices should be made to defeat the evil. In such a case, love is only a burnt out tactic, it won't work out.
Ali.
Great points Ali,especially regarding sacrifice,
To continue, a question: is Love not a motivation for sacrifice? And really, is not love the only real motivation? Examples: People committ suicide out of a misplaced love of self, soliders go to war because of love of country and family, and martyrs give their lives for the love of God. Mothers and Fathers sacrifice themselves for love of their children, and evil is fought because of love for God, the earth, and humanity. The way I see it, love is behind it all.
Just some thoughts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHbRvywasJ0
Loved the video anonymous. Thought Id add my own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eyKXwjFM70&feature=related
Wow, I just got done reading all the comments. I guess I have been wrong and love is not the answer. I thought God loved us so much he sent his son to show us the way. Jesus taught love and not hate. Does that make Jesus wrong too? I guess I am confused. If all people and races had love in their hearts there would not be war or inhumanity done around the world. If love is not the answer than what is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8tUP1R6hPo&feature=player_embedded#
Beautiful Sandra, God Bless.
When I contemplate God's great love, I am sad that so many do not know God for who God really is. God has such a bad rep, God is blamed for so much pain and suffering, and yet God brings and wills only goodness, only love.
Thank you Sandra.
NathanDave,
I think we both are in the same page. No sacrifices can be made without LOVE and at the same time that LOVE is a fruit of a faith on God, our Lord only as you also mentioned it.
My criticism is to new age ideologists who believe, mankind can proceed better without GOD and with LOVE only. These folks are willing to detach us from divinity of our Lord.
These folks want us to believe that religion is the source of all differences, so better for us and "the whole world" to put it aside for a better good (or a new god) which they call it LOVE !!.
I won't accept this in any way.
These people are dangerous and they don't deserve any LOVE because at the bottom-line they have huge interest in this discourse in which they are following.
Abrahamian religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) BE AWARE! This time they are attacking all of us!
Ali.
Ali,
I know we agree on many things, and I do not post to contend with you, just to point out the Father's Love. While you may disagree with (), and you have every right to do so, remember that the Father works thorugh every one of us, since we are all made in his image and likeness. We are all sons and daughters of the Father, this is not blasphemey, it can be proven by scripture. So, if we are all sons and daughters of the Father, then we are all gods (small g) which is ()'s point. That is where he said do not confuse the Creator with a human being a god. Human beings have divine power, and it can only be fully expressed when we are in accordance with the Creator's will. That is why Holy Men and Women thorughout the ages were able to do miracles, not because they were special, but because they had acess to the Creator's Power, they knew it and with faith they used it for good. Black Magicians use this power on the negative pole, and they achieve some success, but eventually they are destroyed. Read Les Visible on Truth Seeker, he explains this truth very well.
This is the time of unveiling. All is being revealed. In order to keep the momentum going, we all must send forth positve vibrations and refuse to accept the old answers to problems.
Psalm 127 (New International Version)
Psalm 127
A song of ascents. Of Solomon.
1 Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain. Unless the LORD watches over the city, the watchmen stand guard in vain.
Dear NathanDave your answer comes from Holy Quran Chapter 5 (The Table: 17,18,19):
" They indeed have disbelieved who say: lo! God is Christ, son of Mary. say: who then can do aught against God, if he had willed to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother and everyone on earth? God's is the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them. He createth what he will. and God is able to do all things. (17)
The jews and christians say: we are sons of God and his loved ones. say: why then doth he chastise you for your sins? Nay, ye are but mortals of his creating. he forgiveth whom he will, and chastiseth whom he will. God's is the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and unto him is the journeying. (18)
O people of the scripture! now hath our messenger come unto you to make things plain unto you after an interval (of cessation) of the messengers, lest ye should say: there came not unto us a messenger of cheer nor any warner. Now hath a messenger of cheer and a warner come unto you. God is able to do all things. (19) "
Nathandave,
"There is no god except God" is the most essential phrase in Islam that attests to the Oneness of God. We have been strictly commanded not to "play" with it in any way. That is why I can not accept ()'s word in uppercase or lowercase g. I submitted my reason from scripture of Quran.
Thank you.
Ali.
Of course Ali, I respect your beliefs. No one would ever question that, especially me, and that was not what I was saying. All I mean is that The Father is good, and can bring good out of us all through the spark of his Spirit which lives in all of us. But not everyone is ready to accept this.
Anyway, I think that I have added enough of my own thoughts. take care all, and God Bless.
ND
ND,
113 chapters of Quran start with *In the name of God the most gracious the most merciful*. That is self-explanatory on goodness of our Lord, the point that you also mentioned.
I know that not everyone in this forum is ready to accept those verses.
Ali.
Genesis 3
The Temptation and Fall of Man
1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”
2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’”
4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and YOU WILL BE LIKE GOD, knowing good and evil.”
6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.
8 And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
9 Then the LORD God called to Adam and said to him, “Where are you?”
10 So he said, “I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself.”
11 And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”
12 Then the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”
13 And the LORD God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
14 So the LORD God said to the serpent:
“ Because you have done this,
You are cursed more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you shall go,
And you shall eat dust
All the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”
16 To the woman He said:
“I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception;
In pain you shall bring forth children;
Your desire shall be for your husband,
And he shall rule over you.”
17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:
“ Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
18 Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
And you shall eat the herb of the field.
19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground,
For out of it you were taken;
For dust you are,
And to dust you shall return.”
20 And Adam called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.
21 Also for Adam and his wife the LORD God made tunics of skin, and clothed them.
22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
A story of something that happened long ago, or shadow of things to come?
Greetings to all and I am enjoying the conversation. I would just like to say that Les Visible is not a Christian, but a Hindu or a Krishna, and acknowledges God, but Jesus is merely a prophet to him. I would only recommend his writings for entertainment purposes only. There are some great comments at that site, but only one or two gives reverence to the Lord. Les is not particulary fond of Christians since we are the ones who are wreaking havoc in the world.
Because the Holy Spirit dwells in us does not make us god(s) in any way shape or form. We should be careful about exalting ourselves when there is only One who is worthy of the glory. I believe this to be an accurate site on the matter for anyone who may be interested:
http://www.gospelway.com/god/indwelling_spirit.php
Ali, I know the same is true of your religion; that Jesus is no more than a prophet, and as long as we know this and accept this of each other, may we be able to continue on with love and understanding in our search for truth. Jesus is my Savior, my King and as the world will soon see, He is also the Almighty God who is coming to judge the whole world. I adore your searching heart and it is my prayer that we may all be blessed by gathering here. It is remarkable having you here with us and I would never want to do anything to jeopardize this amazing blessing for having you with us. I would rather die than deny Jesus Christ.
Anonymous, that was an event that happened long ago that gives us understanding to our current fallen/sinful situation.
My dear sister Sandra, you are not confused. Love IS the answer because Jesus is love. We do not have to fight or wage battles or take part in them in thought, word or deed because vengence belongs to Him. Our God is so amazing.
Love to all who gather here in peace in search of truth.
Sandra
It is a shame some do not understand sarcasm and irony...
All love to you my dear.
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I don't appreciate being talked around and I very well understand sarcasm and irony. And backstabbing.
You and your 'anonymous' sidekick are the same (person) people who got so upset by my statement of Michael Jackson being evil. I well remember now. Your new age philosophy is shallow and does not serve you well this time around either.
() welcome to the site of the Pharisees. They got it all figured out here, no need to go further.
NathanDave
Indeed...I never doubted your wisdom.
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Hold onto your hats (or feathers...Sandra) the Mighty Day is about to dawn!
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Interesting, and timely:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23819.htm
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
Many beneficial changes are on the horizon, and they will lift your quality of life very quickly. Our allies are already primed for their various responsibilities, and indeed have been working towards their objectives for many years. The foundation for the changes has been laid down, and co-operation has extended as far as some leaders in other countries. President Obama will lead the plan that releases you from the dark Ones, and his true colours will be seen once he can fully establish his authority. He has his critics and that is to be expected, but his hands are tied until he can muster the support he needs to go surging ahead. Our presence will enable that to happen, which is one of the reasons the dark Ones try to prevent disclosure of our existence. That is quite impossible as it has been decreed that it is now time for you to meet us, but first the disclosure must be made so that we are officially recognised. You will feel more comfortable about us and our appearance when the nature of our mission is given, and you will find that the plan is for your upliftment to higher levels of existence.
We ask you many times not to be fearful, and we shall continue to do so as that would be playing into the hands of those who would keep you in the dark. Certainly be aware of events that are taking place, but do not emotionally become involved. By all means make others aware, as many people are oblivious of the battle that is being played out between the dark and the Light. It is nothing new, as duality allows for either one to capture your minds and souls. The power swings from one side to the other, but no matter how long it takes the Light will always emerge the victor.
SaLuSa
10 28 09
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Kind of interesting, I/we have gone from chosen to heroes and now to Pharisees. Maybe these higher beings that have chosen us aren't that enlightened at all since they haven't chosen very well, obviously, unless of course you like Pharisees, or you are one. You told them to move on, why haven't they?
I don't really wish to waste too much time on this nonsense, but am I to believe that () is an alien bringing us messages of being beamed up soon? Is this that rapture event that many desire? And Obama is really one of the good guys but he can't let that be revealed...yet. Maybe he can do that right after he agrees to send another 50,000 troops to battle.
Did Obama start this war?... did he ask to have this general in charge?... did he ask the general to plead for more troops?...did he put this useless Afgan government in place?... did he even ask for more troops?
If he pulls out of Afghanistan now, you will never have universal health care...the repubs (remnant of the antichrist) are still acting as spoilers. Without him seeming to be somewhat militant and security conscious they would oppose him even more than they do now.
Wake up to the real world. Did not Christ say when he returned he would come in Power. What do you think it means to be the President of the US?
To be a Pharisee means you cannot see true saviors when they appear because you always are expecting what you want to see, and not what God will present you with.
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Saviors?
So is Obama now or going to be Jesus, Elijah or an alien?
Please, enlighten me.
Doesn't sound like we will have to wait very much longer to see 'his true colors revealed.'
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Obama_to_talk_Afghanistan_troop_num_10302009.html
If Obama sends more troops to Afghanistan, he might still just be covering who he really is and his mission is not complete. But if he doesn't send more troops, then he is showing his true colors? What a comfortable, win-win situation for those who are exalting him.
Changes and open dialogue in Israel? Is this possible? Can a race of people really change? Is anything possible with God? Can love be stronger that death?
http://blog.sojo.net/2009/10/30/video-jewish-american-and-palestinian-nonviolence-advocates-talk-with-jon-stewart/
These poor people:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091030/ap_on_re_as/as_asia_storm
Wow, what a discussion/battle. Although I'm late pitching in my two cents, I'd like to say that there is a great mystery left to be explored in whether or not we are "gods".
As I read through, I kept thinking about when Jesus said, "I am the vine and you are the branches" to his followers in John Chapter 15
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015&version=NKJV
The closer we get to God on our personal journey, the less we can identify ourselves apart from God. Jesus distinguishes between himself and his disciples by comparing them to branches that spring from him, the vine. We are to be as vessels that house the Spirit of the living God. Paul says that we have "The mind of Christ". If, therefore we as vessels of flesh are to be filled with the Holy Spirit and given the mind of Christ, would we truly be our sinful selves any more? I don't think there are god-people walking around the earth right now, but I do think that there are sincere people who are being prepared to receive the outpouring of God's spirit in God's timing, because it is God's plan. The Temple of God has many stones, (us), in which the spirit of God dwells...this concept has been reinterpreted as "Many mansions" or "Many dwelling places", as in rooms for us to store our eternal consumer goods...the truth is worth searching out on this mystery.
Great discussion, and may it be pleasing to our Lord. For this is all finally all about Him and it is a most exciting time with it only getting better and better. The good seems to be intensifying as quickly as the bad.
Jon Stewart is taking a lot of grief for airing that segment regarding Palestine and Israel. As always, it is the governments who will never allow peace. The recent escalation of fighting in Jerusalem and the rhetoric from Jordan regarding it starting WWIII is of no small coincidence.
Ahmadinejad has allegedly changed his mind about the nuclear agreement and has said stated that as long as Israel has nukes, then others should be able to as well (paraphrased). The Juniper Cobra drill is still live in Israel and is seen as a provocation to Iran.
I found this site that resonated deeply with me about our (hopeful) glorification and wanted to share it in the hopes it may bless someone else:
http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/2037_We_Will_Be_Glorified_for_the_Glory_of_God/
Love and peace to all who gather here.
“We cannot change the heart of those people of the south but we can make war so terrible and make them so sick of war that generations would pass away before they would again appeal to it”.
–William T Sherman, The Atlas of the Civil War
Sherman knew that generation of HDTV and LOVE would work best!
Ali.
Great post Ali, very funny!
Finally a discussion of the issues. Thank you, these are the people I remember!! I knew your better angels would emerge.
YB, I think that the english word god is not helpful in this discussion. St Paul states clearly that we are all adopted sons and daughters of God, and physical temples of the Holy Spirit. This can only mean that the Father dwells within us, that god is with us(Emmanuel). And if so, then we are given access to the power of the Father, and can overcome in his name. This is entirely biblical, and not in any way blasphemous. This does not make us god, but channels of god's power, and spirit. That is all I was trying to say, and I think it is what () is saying as well in different language. Claim your power! Stop pretending you are powerless, Jesus said we would do the works he did, and greater besides! Time to claim our inheritance people, the time has come!
Do we decide that the time has come, or does our God? I have to say God since I am clueless how to claim our inheritance. All I know is God is in control and will show us everything we need to know when we need to know it, otherwise we would be doing it, whatever it might be - wouldn't we? The Lord tells us that His endtime church will be more glorifed than His beginning church and in His beginning church the disciples healed people.
In Revelation the Lord shows us that at the time of the end He commands the four angels to seal His flock with protection before the world is destroyed. We do not have to be troubled by what we are seeing but we must simply be prepared to accept nothing other than His Holy Word and to rely on Him for our protection.
It is not Biblical in my limited understanding that there will be help or assistance from extraterrestrials and most of the message made me think of Timothy's warning:
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. ~Amen.
...as well as the warning from Romans:
Rom. 16:17-18 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. ~Amen.
There is a lot of new age nonsense being spun everywhere and we need to be cautious. The new scientology ads being aired on tv look very appealing, too.
The Lord will provide everything we need and then so much more and has such amazing things planned for us and just as everything has a season and a time and a purpose, this waiting patiently on the Lord is strengthening and preparing us in ways we are not yet aware of. At least I am not aware of yet and have no idea how to do the works He did, but I am content to wait on the Lord. There is no confusion or second guessing when the message is truly from God above.
Love and prayers in this time like no other with all glory and praise to the only One who is worthy.
This would be a very refreshing change of pace...if only:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=110008§ionid=351020202
Some very revealing latest headlines in the "Popular" section on the right of the page.
Another point of view on () announcements of alien intervention.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheNewMessagefromGod#p/a/0EF5077101847CC9/1/-HgTBD1wFJA
() seems to me that the human race should be allowed to solve their own problems. I am highly skeptical of a so-called alien intervention for our supposed "benefit." The human race is unprepared for such an event, if it is true, and would be highly suceptible to being fooled. If they are as benevolent as they say they are, then they would know this.
There is a sense of relief amongst so many of you who have been following the path leading to Ascension. You have become aware that whatever personal beliefs you have as to how it will proceed, that there is a point where we of the Galactic Federation must fully enter your lives. It has been known for quite some time and the scene has gradually been set for open contact. That is only the commencement of many more that will ensure the purpose of our presence is fully understood. Many already know what is planned, but the vast numbers of people with little or no knowledge will need to be gently informed of what is to come. There have been so many disruptions to your lives already, that our intentions and the authority by which we come needs to be clearly stated. Whatever your personal beliefs, those who believe in a god should be able to accept the idea of the Creator as the ultimate intelligence behind all that exists. Even those who have denied such a possibility, will in our opinion find it easier to accept than those with a set of rigid beliefs. The reason is that the Creator is not tied to any religious organization and simply stands for all that is the Truth.
We are those who have gone before you and we come back to enlighten you in all matters, and represent stages of evolution that you are to achieve with Ascension. Consider what drives us to serve you at this time, as it is certainly not for gain, except for the satisfaction of doing a job done well. We are the Creator’s representatives carrying out the plan for your deliverance from the dark Ones. Their time as the dominant force has come to an end with the closing of the cycle of duality. If there were no force for good you would continue to live in chaotic conditions without relief. The Divine Plan is perfect and allows for your experience in duality, whilst at the same time limiting its ability to totally overcome you. Subconsciously you know it to be so, as you agreed with the plan when you first volunteered for the experience. You might ask the reason that you should be prepared to undergo such a dramatic change, from the peaceful and happy existence that you left in the higher realms. It is Dear Ones to fulfill that driving force within you, that propels you ever onwards and back towards the Source of All That Is.
SaLuSa
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NathanDave
The New Messages from God state very clearly what we can expect in the future from other civilizations that have advanced somewhat further than we have technologically. Marshall Summers has had the task of informing us about how these civilzations are not always very advanced spiritually, and can take advantage of the innocence of lesser ones like ourselves. He clearly explains what might happen if we don't prepare ourselves with knowledge of the rules of engagement, and elevate our understanding and become conscious of our rights in the greater universal societies that already exist and have many forms of exchanges and spiritual commerce.
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Well, with all due respect, it appears to me that he is saying that enlightened, advanced societies conserve their resources and refuse to get involved in the interplanetary exchanges and commerce, while the depraved societies are enslaved in a system of commerce that involves deception, illusion, and extreme competition, and this is the intervention that is heading our way. Since we are naive and ignorant of the challenges facing us, we are likely to succumb to advanced alien technology, like the native people's did in the America's when small bands of European expeditioanry forces were able to topple vast empires like the Aztecs and the Incas. They will descend from the sky, throw some trinkets at us, and we will give up our rights and freedoms to them willingly.
I am not saying this will happen, I am simply trying ot further discuss the issue, because if there is a revelation of alien intelligence, it will be extreme to say the least, and people are certainly not ready for such a disclosure. It will be a shock.
NathanDave
You are entirely correct that these advanced (relatively speaking) civilizations will try and offer us trinkets in the form or technologies to solve our immediate problems, and many unprepared individuals will step into such a trap with both feet. We have a responsibility to discerne the difference between the motives of those and higher civilizations by learning everything we can about the way they are required to interface with us. There are laws that must be obeyed, especially with regard to the use of force, but trickery is another matter. There are many humans that are well aware of the situation and understand what is permitted and what is not, but many are in denial, and expect to be rescued from our own mistakes by an 'intervention'.
Intervention is only possible by means of invitation, so the dark civilizations do everything to gain our confidence and even resort to extended programs to brainwash and establish false religions if that is what it takes. Our main weapon to combat this type of malignant invasion is to request help from the truly advanced races that have our best interests at heart, since even these require an invtation to come and help.
I appreciate your desire to keep an open mind and keep the discussion on a sensible level and not resort to knee-jerk reactions and disbelief.
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NathanDave
To enlarge somewhat on another statement you made, regarding the intervention coming our way: This 'intervention' or First Contact as it is better known, will include ALL levels of civilizations, because none can be excluded. We can exclude the lower ones by our 'intention' to follow our highest light, which will make the lower and darker civilization appear unattractive to us, and we will reject them before they have a chance to get their foot in the door. However, the dark ones know how we often fall for the shiny objects, and we all want a quick fix to our problems, and they will try and exploit this weakness in us. Knowledge is our best defense.
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The manufactured crisis over Iran's nuclear programme escalates. How convenient that it is now during the Juniper Cobra exercise. Anything can happen; well almost anything can happen:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8338155.stm
The melted down steel from the twin towers has been made into a war ship named USS New York that received a 21-gun salute today while entering the harbor for the first time where the towers stood. Made into a warship..how utterly fitting and how incredibly sad and ironic.
Love and prayers for all who gather here.
I found a great site and thought someone might be interested:
http://themostimportantnews.com/archives/mystery-illness-infects-over-a-quarter-of-a-million-people-in-ukraine
There are some conflicting reports about a mysterious illness that has sickened over a quarter of a million people in a very short time.
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
They discuss as if the people are cattle. How both funny and sad!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKwyeLWNmOM&feature=player_embedded#
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
Annon
NathanDave
This is a well balanced site to answer many of your questions...
http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/
At the bottom of the page are the previous sessions.
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Greetings earthlings,
More war and rumours of war:
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE5A41TF20091105
And meanwhile, Central Banks lead subtle shift away from the dollar with a G20 Summit taking place.
Annon, great video - I liked the part where they call us 'the crazy people.'
Researchers say that the h1n1 is a spin off of the Spanish flu that killed millions, so the plague in Ukraine should come as no real surprise; prayers for all:
http://rightsoup.com/panic-in-the-ukraine-deadly-illness-looks-like-pneumonic-plague/
Israel accuses Iran of war crimes:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=11582
The pains are getting closer together, and just as in childbirth, it gets worse before it gets better.
Another horrifying event in Texas and no words come to mind but the heaviness in the heart is loud and clear.
The US, in keeping the status quo, is rejecting the Goldstone report and some senators want to move the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem because 'it is high time Americans recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital.' Israel declared it so in 1950. What AIPAC wants, AIPAC gets. We know 'they' need to stage the rebuilding of the temple, and this could very well be more prophecy about to be fulfilled. Right before our very eyes.
There hasn't been any major quakes lately, and maybe the next one will be the 'big one, Alice.'
Rejoice and make a joyful noise unto the Lord for He is coming to reign.
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Senators_move_US_embassy_to_Jerusal_11052009.html
Possibly another war on Gaza:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1125701.html
How long O Lord, and how bad will it have to get?
The spin keeps spinning:
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/who-is-joseph-moshe/
This is what we have to look forward to sooner rather than later; delivered via chemtrails:
http://www.infowars.com/martial-law-forced-vaccinations-may-be-unfolding-in-ukraine/
Hey (),
Thanks for the links, very interesting. Can I ask, what is your opinion of Patrick Cooke? I found his website years ago, and have gone back to reading it again. Any input gladly appreciated.
ND
NathanDave
Patrick has made a life's work out of clarifying the UFO phenomena for those who must approach it from a biblical background. His work is respectful and well thought out and researched, and allows biblical scholars a way to take a peek outside the box. It serves a very useful purpose to ween those who have become trapped in a world of dogma away from a very rigid and confined understanding.
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Another shooting in Orlando in an office building with at least one dead and several wounded:
http://news.aol.com/article/office-shooting-in-orlando/756593
Interesting...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ-fMVTJzH0&feature=player_embedded
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
Annon
It is so strange and exciting watching prophecy unfold. This pneumonic plague outbreak training exercise is so close to where I live and it is all so surreal sometimes, but it is hitting close to home now in many ways for a lot of people. The local health department received their shipment earlier this week and they gave away 1,800 shots to anyone who wanted them without proof of residency because this is 'a federal vaccine.' They are going to start targeting the schools on Monday. My sister is a healthcare worker who refused it and was promptly brought in to the office of her supervisor of which it was made pretty clear that she had to take it if she wanted to keep her job because they wanted a 100% innoculation rating.
http://www.infowars.com/pneumonic-plague-drill-held-in-illinois/
Woe to all the inhabitants of the world.
Great link Annon, as always.
The time is here and now to turn to the Lord if one has not already done so for He and He alone is the only Savior. I do not claim to know how He is going to change the world from dark to His glorious light, but it is going to be amazing. Literally the best show on earth.
I know they want us to fear, fear, fear and fear some more, but I don't. Not any of it for I know my Lord is with me therefore there is nothing to fear. I can see why people who don't know Him would be scared of all they are seeing, but it comforts me. It is all written and it is all true. For all the world to see. No denying, no hiding anywhere and everything will be revealed to us when and where we need to know because our Savior is mighty and He has told us He will not forsake us. And He won't.
Praise His glorious name forever and ever.
Real or imaginary true colors:
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/military-officials-obama-leaning-34000-troops-afghanistan/
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
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Detectives always say 'follow the money trail' which is true for most crimes, but for prophecy watching, I say follow Israel. It is a very, very busy state of late. Just today it abducted 14 civilians from the West Bank and one of its' rabbis says it is acceptable for Jews to kill non Jews:
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=238444
Maybe even more notable than that little speech is Netanyahu's speech after a closed-door meeting with himself and Obama, where he went straight to the Jewish Federation and spoke of and promised 'peace' between Israel and Palestine....says he is done negotiating about negotiations. "Now is the time."
Is there a person in the world who could ever believe that this man wants 'peace' with Palestine. Interesting that he did not say how he was going to bring this everlasting peace. Before he returns to Israel he will stop over and announce these wonderful plans to France's Nicholas Sarkozy while Tony Blair and a quartet is in the Middle East speaking of 'peace and hopefully very soon.'
Events are happening at near the speed of sound, the way it seems to me. Time is racing like never before and I pray that time is indeed being quickened thus hastening His glorious return just as He has said, or none of His elect would survive.
How long O'Lord. Come Lord Jesus, come quickly. Rejoice and make a joyful noise unto our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who is worthy of all our praise. How great is our God Almighty. Soon the world will see His mighty hand.
His strength and peace to all.
And just this morning, Obama met with the NSA and has not disclosed what the meeting entailed.
Revelation 11:15-19 (King James Version)
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
19And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Amen.
1 John 2:15-16 (King James Version)
15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Amen. Our God is SO amazing.
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
....'it's appropriate that the Vatican would host such a meeting' (regarding extraterrestrials):
http://news.aol.com/article/vatican-weighs-possibility-implications/761942
...but the CDC says 'no clear link.'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33845867/ns/health-cold_and_flu
We have informed you that it is time to reveal the truth about us, and our activities on your behalf. The time of revelations you refer to as “Disclosure” is so to say “on the table”, and it will open a Pandora’s Box of information. Once the initial announcement has been made, it will bring out long hidden truths about the Galactic Federation members. It will also reveal the truth about other visitors to Earth outside of our membership, and not necessarily of the higher levels of Light. Naturally a young civilisation such as yours attracts a lot of interest, and it is permissible for visits to be made for the purposes of exploration and scientific information. However, there are strict laws of non-interference, and they have to observed.
As you have grown over thousands of years, the colonisation of other countries has been enforced and mighty empires have emerged. The colonisation of Space has stringent and enforceable controls, and can only take place with both sides in agreement. Clearly there are many benefits to be gained where a more advanced civilisation joins hands with a developing one. Your Earth is in such a position now, and your potential to be able to join the Space Family commenced when you raised your consciousness levels. It was known that you would rapidly progress towards Space travel, and now you go back and forth to planets in your Solar System. Inter Stellar travel would be a natural development from there, but until you put down your weapons of mass destruction, you will be prevented from doing so. It is true that there have been Galactic Wars, but as time passes so soul progression takes place and peaceful co-existence becomes more wide spread.
SaLuSa
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SaLuSa
I am sorry if I offend you. But I can't buy into this "galactic federation" stuff. I only know the Ancient Of Days Who sent His Son to die on my behalf and do not need other entities to enlighten me. His spirit witness to that of mine that He is the Only Light through Whom I can see deep down my own heart. The entities you are highly talking about are, as far as I am concerned, part of the great deception. They are out there. They are powers and principalities who are messangers of the devil. They are working over time to take humanity down with them to the bottomless pit of hell. They appear to be saviours of humanity when in reality they are hell bent to destroy the world.
I don't know how one can easly be led into believing that the cattle mutilators and human abductors as saviours.
Brother, why are you perishing with lack of knowledge? Have you sincerely prayed to God to show you the TRUTH?
I can see, you have made the pact with them to the point of expressing yourself as being one of them.
I pray that the Good Lord may open your eyes and hep you turn away from these entities.
As for me, I have the Light of Christ that shines upon me and enable me to see 10,000 of them in my left 1000 of them in my right drop dead.
Stay blessed and keep seeking the TRUTH
Annon
Amen, Annon. I am blessed by that light that shines on you from the one and only Savior Jesus Christ.
Acts 4:12 (KJV)
12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
I may be prosecuted someday under the new and improved hate crimes bill for posting this link, but the truth is still the truth and will always stand.
This man-made entity of the nation of Israel and its' right to (Biblically) exist has become a burdensome stone for the whole world. It is busy demonizing the nation of Islam and creating in the minds of many that Islam and Muslims are the enemy while in fact the real enemy is Zionism, or those who say they are Jews and are not, which is one of Jesus' strongest warnings for endtime prophecy and it is ignored because people are still believing the lies and they are scared.
http://www.gilad.co.uk/in-your-face/2009/11/12/a-new-harsh-media-portrayal-of-the-israeli-a-short-video-by.html
Everything will be revealed. How amazing and refreshing.
Love and peace to all.
The staging has begun for the next false flag brought to you by those who call themselves Jews but are not by reports of the Feds seizing mosques around the nation and the trials of 911 'suspects' near ground zero where they were met with an angry reception. Timing is everything. The Fort Hood incident was a psyop in part to renew the backlash of hatred for Muslims after 911 and unfortunately it appears to be working like a charm. Heavy sigh.
...but there's water on the moon in significant amounts...another heavy sigh.
Syria has turned down a direct talk invitation by Israel, brokered through France's strengthening ties with Syria, as Syria says Netanyahu is not interested in peace if Israel won't return the Golan Heights, so here they go - round and round again.
The east coast is experiencing a lot of flooding from Ida and my heart goes out to all who are affected.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/weather/11/13/northeast.storms/
China has 7.5 million people affected by the biggest snowfall in decades. It has caused roofs of nine school buildings to have collapsed. All this after reports of weather manipulation by the Chinese government to ease severe drought conditions.
More rumors of war; the situation with the Koreas is escalating and Obama is over there talking about a strong US presence and involvement in Asia...American democracy for everyone.
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/S_Korea_keeps_military_on_alert_ove_11142009.html
You gotta love this;
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8308
Stay blessed and keep looking up.
Annon
I love watching the whole truth be revealed and it looks like the evil ones may be called out. Many are being heckled in ways like never before and I even seen where it is being reported that Cheney 'lied about 911.'
We see reports that the CIA is funding the Taliban and hear of foreign heads of states unable to travel to certain countries for the possibility of being arrested for war crimes.
Their time is growing short.
I rejoice.
Thanks for the great link Annon. Love and holy kisses to you my brother in Christ.
And to all.
While on his Asian tour, Obama makes time to signal that war on Iran is still very much in the forefront:
http://online.wsj.com/video/obama-loses-patience-with-iran/60A7E7BA-5B70-4617-912C-51E0FC012B98.html
Update on the illness in Ukraine:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227984/British-scientists-testing-Ukrainian-super-flu-killed-189-people.html
Scroll down to the video and watch people's reactions to the truth; gotta love this guy:
http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2009/11/israel-not-muslims-did-911.html
A little dated, but the overall message is timeless:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcMhAVhldB4
I watched the 9/11 Israeli video. It was interesting! to see how people are asserting on their opposite right to express back their opinions too!
haha! Tx.
Ali.
Greetings Ali,
It is interesting to watch. Nothing has divided this nation more in my opinion.
The hate that spews from those who defend the Israelis and continue to believe the official lies of 911 is astounding and grows more so every passing day. There are many reasons for their denial and mostly it is like the girl who referred to herself as 'stupid' because their pride will not allow them to see the truth. They cannot and do not want to admit they were wrong or dupped. Given the history of the US and Israel it should not be so difficult to see the truth, but it still is for some.
The truth is hate for those who hate the truth.
I got the feeling that if the person with the camera wasn't there, it may have been a lot uglier than it was and it was surely ugly enough.
Love and peace to all in these most trying of times.
Yeap FF! It could have been a looot uglier.
A good crash course:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy3KDYE5KQE
Ali.
A very revealing crash course, Ali; thanks for sharing it. I know it shed more light for me on the current situation we find ourselves with the commencement of the very real possibility of world war. Once again, it is not the people who desire war but the governments. I agree all government leaders are complicit. They are satan's pawns. We can be sure that when God raises His hand they will be dealt with swiftly.
Ali, can you substantiate or refute any so called 'plague outbreak' in the Ukraine, by any chance? Events and propaganda are more twisted than ever making it more difficult to know what is real and what is not, which makes me ever more thankful for the truth that is written on all our hearts that by God's grace gives us discernment and a solid place to stand in a trembling world.
If the outbreak in the Ukraine is real, Joseph Moshe certainly would have to have been eliminated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzQBiiwo09g
One curious point about those who continue to believe the official lies of 911 - they have such a vast amount of hatred and contempt for those of us with a differing view of the event while they accuse us of the very same hatred and I believe they would not think twice about having '911 truthers' thrown overboard. Yet I do not wish them any ill will for their denial of the truth for I know they are blinded. The powerful hold of hypocrisy is astonishing.
Love will conquer. And this is our role in this endgame...to love one another as He has loved us.
I went through Matthew 23 and what really struck me was how the picture of Pharisees matches those people of which I have been brought up with !! No wonder our language also is called "Farsi" !
FF,
Actually I didn't know about the Ukrainian story until I read it here. I'll let you know if I found any lead from any outlet. But for now you seem to be the one with leads :) Thank you so much.
Ali.
FF,
But I think this may be the reason why God puts some people into a challenge. May be they return to him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL2o8lIIcB4
Ali.
Amen, Ali. Indeed God wants for none to parish and He does bring trials and tribulations in the hopes they return to Him. I am so blessed by your posts; thank you my brother in a far away land who is so close to my heart.
There is hope for all and it is my prayer that all those facing challenges turn to Him for comfort and guidance for there is none to be found anywhere else in this weary world. Time is short for choosing and there are only two sides to this battle.
I am sorry that those around you match the Pharisees and may you continue to seek the truth according to His precious Holy Word. I will be reading Matthew 23 again shortly in honor of my brother Ali. I have actually been in Matthew 24 recently.
May He continue to lift up the Body of Christ that loves Him and adores Him for all He has done and all that is to come.
You are so welcome Ali and I am so pleased the Lord has placed us on this journey together. God is good and always knows best; we just have to learn to trust Him and rely on Him for everything. He is faithful and just.
Love, prayers and blessings to all.
I borrowed this from Les Visible's site, and it is right on the mark for us here in Mystery Babylon:
http://ampedstatus.com/the-critical-unraveling-of-us-society
Psalm 106:1
1Praise ye the LORD. O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever. Amen.
This world is passing away, but His people have cause to rejoice because we know His mercy and love endureth forever. This is the only lasting thing we can count on, but how great is our God for it is all we need.
Watching prophecy unfold in the spiritual context is amazing, but the physical world is a little more challenging to watch. There are so many who are lost and so many who are enduring hardships like never before and it is painful to witness.
Come Lord Jesus, come quickly as you have said.
Regarding the scribes and Pharisees, Jesus tells us that amongst themselves they know full well who they are; they ARE the children of those which killed the prophets. They are the enemy and the Lord has very strong words against them.
Matthew 23:29-31 (KJV)
29Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Amen.
There is nothing new under the Sun and the same spirit that persecuted Jesus is alive and well today and I believe the zionists are those that hated Jesus and His prophets then and that same hatred continues for His people now.
God is the God of Abraham and Abraham is the father of both Isaac and Ishmael, but those who are our enemy are of their father the devil. It is of no small coincidence that 'they' are plotting to divide Muslims and Christians.
Interesting time indeed - all of it.
Love, peace and prayers.
" Say (o muhammad): we believe in allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto abraham and ishmael and isaac and jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto moses and jesus and the prophets from their lord. we make no distinction between any of them, and unto him we have surrendered. "
-Holy Quran (3:84)
Ali.
Heaviest rainfall ever recorded in Britain:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091120/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_floods
Another link on the 'Biblical" flooding:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=34068189�
Courtesy of Les' site. How interesting given the flooding in "Biblical proportions" in Britain:
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/11/20/hacked-sensitive-documents-lifted-from-hadley-climate-center/?blog_id=9&post_id=8495
Everything is being revealed.
One more courtesy of Les Visible:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
...and it's only just begun.
This is what you can find in a 900 page dual-volume of trade history. It is a shame for academia and it shows how the so-called intellectual arena, is nothing more than a Kiss-A** playground:
"The Rothschild family, the most influential banking
dynasty of modern Europe, began with Mayer Amschel
Rothschild (1743–1812) in Frankfurt am Main, Germany,
and expanded across Europe under his five sons:
Amschel Mayer Rothschild (1773–1855) in Frankfurt,
Germany; Salomon Rothschild (1774–1855) in Vienna,
Austria; Nathan Mayer Rothschild (1777–1836) in London,
England; Karl Rothschild (1788–1855) in Naples,
Italy; and James Rothschild (1792–1868) in Paris, France.
As the most powerful banker in Europe, Nathan smuggled
gold through Napoléon’s continental blockade to
fund Wellington’s decisive Waterloo campaign in 1815,
propped up the Bank of England during the liquidity crisis
of 1834, and reinvented the European bond market.
The other brothers worked with the governments of
France, Austria, and Belgium to establish much of the
continental railway network. Nathan’s son, Lionel Nathan
Rothschild (1808–1879), was the first Jewish Member
of Parliament. The family played an instrumental role
in late-nineteenth-century British imperial expansion by
financing the Suez Canal Company and the South African
diamond trade. After World War II the Rothschilds
extended into North America, most prominently
through the Brinco resource and hydroelectric development
scheme in Newfoundland. In the 1980s the French
government nationalized the Paris bank branch, and the
British government depended on the London branch to
privatize several public corporations."
NO MENTION OF Sasson family and their influence over the east, south and middle east! Yeah, they assumed us as stupid...I mean this fellow's descendants are still living in Iran, how come they neglected to cover such as an INFLUENTIAL guy?
Ali.
This is what you can find under a picture in this so-called Encyclopedia of trade history by Gale academic publishing 2006:
"A woodcut from 1531 shows a farmer visiting a Jewish moneylender, who uses an abacus for his transactions. Many Jews across Europe played a crucial role in developing commerce and lending systems that helped expand trading among nations during the sixteenth century."
What he means of course by crucial role in developing commerce and lending systems is what we know as THE USURY.
Seriously, we should be more conscious of what we 'read' in universities! -or professional lying environments.
Ali.
The money changers...the ones who control the world for when you control the money it matters not who makes the laws. They serve mammon, not God. They will be destroyed for serving the wrong God and their riches matter not where they are going and they cannot take it with them whereas we who serve God and have been storing up riches in Heaven will be rewarded with more than we can imagine.
...professional lying environments. I like that and how true it is, and look how much they charge for those lies. Students in California were recently protesting tuition hikes of up to 32 percent.
And you are right, Ali, they assume us stupid, laugh at us all the time and consider us 'useless bottom feeders.' They have no regard for anyone but themselves but they will be held accountable one day...hopefully soon.
Everything we have ever been told is a lie.
Stay blessed and keeping looking up.
I report...you decide, and as always, time will tell:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Is-Project-Bluebeam-the-Grand-Deception
Colossians 3:15 (KJV)
15And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
Amen. All thanks, praise and glory to God for all that He has done and all that is to come.
I am not sure whether I have posted this before but here it is; an interview with John Perkins author of "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8
Ali.
Bill Gates Ain't Got Nothing On The Rothschilds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjLJ8UKYDqs
Ali.
FF, How interesting! This post is on New Age, Love and Money. Sounds familiar nah? We had a small debate on these issues and this conclusion would really help us to put things into perspective:
http://www.henrymakow.com/001614.html
Ali.
Northern England is expecting more flooding and British Columbia has flooded after being rocked by a 6.6 earthquake last week, and Brazil and Colombia are being hit with flooding as well:
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20091121/bc_flood_update_091121/20091121/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/news/14042006news.shtml
Ali, I like makow's work and think he sees a lot of truth. I haven't had a chance to see the video links yet, but enjoyed the article by Makow. I believe 99% of all big game players are corrupt even the seeming do-gooders. They exalt their own and destroy the outsiders in one way or another.
But it is the meek who inherit the earth and God's Kingdom. Come Lord Jesus, come quickly.
Another good writing by Makow which sums it up pretty good:
http://www.henrymakow.com/an_education_film_is_parable_o.html
Israeli jets struck Gaza today:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/22/israeli-aircraft-strike-g_n_366834.html
Lebanon has placed its' military and people on high alert for war with Israel.
Wars and rumors of war...continually until Jesus comes back.
I found a good one:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
Youtube link with the same material:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEhat0pU4wc
FF,
Thank you for the "Education".
Ali.
I can say the same thing to you my brother Ali and what a tremendous blessing to learn and grow together as we proceed on this amazing journey that is getting more amazing everyday with prophecy unfolding right before us.
Today (11/23) Lebanon has shot down an Israeli drone and the 'armed faction' of Hamas is vowing retaliation for the missile strikes on Gaza. Iran is conducting war games for protection of its' nuclear sites and has threatened to hit Tel Aviv if US/Israel attacks, and it has been very recently revealed that allegedly it is not an empty threat as Iran indeed does have the capability of striking Israel which was supposedly in question. Everything they say and do suits their evil purposes. The war drums are beating louder while Americans flock to the theatres and allow themselves to be sidetracked by their own selfish pursuit of healthcare reform that will never, ever come about. They care nothing about our health; only our taxes for their endless pursuit of bloodshed.
The crackdown of silencing those who would speak out against Israeli policies in the form of the real reason for the newly enacted 'Hate Crimes' law:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24032.htm
You're right Ali - you did find some great links and thanks for sharing. This is the one 'education' that I can't get enough of. Funny it is the most important education of our lives therefore making it priceless, yet it costs nothing.
The real three main axis of true evil are the US, Israel and Britain...military might, false religion and financiers, respectively. Zionism is an enemy of the whole world for they truly believe they are chosen to rule the world with an iron fist thus making themselves into their false god. They are so deceived and already defeated. I rejoice and give thanks and trust all His ways.
Love and peace to all.
Matthew 24:42-44
42) Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. (43) But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. (44) Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/alert-pneumonic-plague-in-iowa/
Obama's true colors, or is he trying to just appear more 'militant' to throw off the scent before he gives his speech on the coming alien invasion. I now see that 'Galactica Federation' nonsense in other places and if the BlueBeam project is really being staged, how many will be so easily deceived by more lies.
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/obama-afghan-strategy-decision-within-days/
In case my link didn't work or someone missed this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydnh6MyY64Y
Interesting but not unexpected.
http://groups.google.com/group/bible-prophecy-news/browse_thread/thread/54820b44199f2c80#
Stay blessed and keep looking up
Annon
Dubai is defaulting or restructuring its' debt of 3.5 Billion dollars shaking world markets:
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/dubai-default-world-markets/
Flooding in Saudi Arabia during the pilgimage:
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/saudi-floods-kill-77/
Greetings with holy kisses to you Annon. I have missed you.
Interesting article and probably very accurate. I read that a reason for Obama's trip to China was to warn China that Israel might attack Iran. That will certainly change things as we know it.
Hi everyone,
It is disgusting to see that many innocent people are being killed in Yemen, in the month of Hajj (Forbidden month) as Saudi government along Jordanian and Al-Qaeda are co-operating in this bloodshed, and the whole world is just silent!
The surface of the story is, these people are being killed because they refuse to accept Wahabisim another cult, established by Brits ! in Saudi Arabia. Nevertheless this Wahabi'sm is something like Shia'sm but with more money behind it and trademark of Brits! Now Are Suadi's considered Muslim? when blood of their own brothers is dripping from their hands?? OR...
Another oil field has been recently found under those innocent Yemenis' feet and they themselves even don't know why they are being killed!
and so many graphic videos on youtube about this bloodshed. I just don't post it here.
Ali.
I couldn't understand why the Yemenis were being killed either, Ali. I have been reading about it and know that it is escalating, but it is very perplexing even though war never makes sense. I do know their time is growing short and will be held accountable and sometimes this is the only way I can manage to witness the blood flowing in the streets. I am thankful for those who are watching and continue to pray for all the innocents everywhere.
Interesting article:
http://www.richardccook.com/2009/11/25/the-secret-history-of-our-time-the-pope-and-satan-war-and-the-anti-christ-revelations-and-the-last-days/
Keep the faith.
Love to all.
The Dubai default just may be the precursor to the market crash that will cause woe to the whole world:
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/stocks-dive-dubai-financial-problems/
Couple of quite new interviews with quite GOOD people:
Peter Voser, CEO Royal Dutch Shell (Rothschild)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK3fAiGrR0w
And...the one and only Sir EVELYN DE ROTHSCHILD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBaCJPm9PBs
Ali.
Dear everyone,
Watch this series before it gets removed:
Rothschild's Choice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbbf7yugiZQ
Ali.
Exactly what is the Copenhagen visit all about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40
Great series Ali; a lot of truth in there. Don'cha love the internet?! No wonder they want to censor it so desperately. I could actually only watch the first five, the rest would'nt load. Their masquerade party is almost over, but they are not going out quietly.
Peace to all.
The Copenhagen visit could be the start of something very interesting:
http://www.nocapandtrade.com/category/copenhagen-treaty/
WTO protestors in Geneva:
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/cars-burn-police-protesters-clash-geneva-wto-conference/
FF,
Just a quick tip for the loading problem, use SHIFT+F5 to "force reload" the page from the server and then it will work. I watched whole series with this trick.
Somebody sent me this video of "US soldier burning the body of a dead Taliban" . The point that I don't understand is why would they like to put a dead body into fire, and watch ?!
Ali.
There is no answer for your question of why someone would light a dead body on fire and watch...I am speechless and I am saddened beyond words.
Your trick worked, Ali. Thank you and I found that series to be very enlightening. I hope others get a chance to watch it. Their one big brotherhood of evil controls nearly every aspect of our world and has for a very, very long time. The Lord Jesus tells us 'there is nothing new under the sun' and I am so thankful their time grows shorter with each passing day. They are the strangers that walk among us, the chaff growing with the wheat, the ones who are of their father the devil, the ones who are deserving of His mighty wrath.
There is talk of the Fed being audited, of which Bernanke has warned that if undertaken, would further destabalize the almighty dollar, and this is part of their plan as well. The new world order currency will replace the Federal Reserve and this is by their design as well.
The Copenhagen treaty is more ominous than it appears as well. America will lose its sovereignty. Maybe the climate change is not so much about the weather but their fanciful one world government:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116256
Interesting times and of course, and everything that is happening in our world is so Biblically accurate, and I give thanks and all my praise to God for all His amazing ways.
Love and peace to all.
..and the lies; enough already with the lies. It is Israel who does not want peace and will never, never allow it:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1131464.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Rudp4TBOI
Debunking David De Rothschild And The Global Warming Hoax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p51Ad8NRQSw
Ali.
Copenhagen may never be the same:
http://fto.co.za/news/denmarks-new-anti-riot-law-expect-total-chaos-and-police-brutality-cop15-2009112915906.html
Great video, Ali. It is so refreshing and exciting watching the truth come out. These treacherous liars need to be revealed and exposed for what they are. Soon they will be looking for a place to hide, but there will be no hiding place and their corrupt power will no longer be able to serve them in a world of only truth, light and love.
I rejoice for their time is short.
This must be the peace that Netanyahu speaks of:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-11/30/content_12566100.htm
Obama is keeping up appearances vry well as the new war president with a new 'surge' in Afghanistan of 30,000 troops. Is it merely for the poppy fields that are thriving again under occupation that were nearly erradicated or the front for the war with Iran. Either way, it's a no win situation. In this crazy, weary, upside-down world, war is peace. Heavy sigh.
Come Lord Jesus, come.
I like the ping pong, we are playing here FF :) Speaking of the "poppy field" that you mentioned watch this then:
Dubai World Financial Problems, British Rothschild Project
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StZ5xTnF0yw
Ali.
I like the ping pong too, Ali and thanks for the much-needed smile with love from across the many miles from me to you. I consider your fellowship and your watchfulness a tremendous blessing.
The temporary powers that be are so busy, busy, busy with their plans of world domination that watching everything would take more hours than there are in a day.
That video stated that the Dubai meltdown is 'a disintegration of the entire global financial system.' I agree it is, but it is by design even when they make it appear happenstance. "Order out of chaos." First they have to create the chaos to make order, the new world order.
Here's one right back at you :)
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/israel-did-911-all-the-proof-in-the-world/
This is in honor of you and the miles between our worlds becoming shorter:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2386644739921573216&ei=KOkSS4ygHqLwqAPWiYClDA&hl=en#
I had read somewhere that the full moon tomorrow on 12/2 could be an illuminati date for action of some kind against Iran...I hope and pray they are wrong and it is merely superstition at its' worst. While it is so difficult watching all this unfold, I know that it must come so it can pass. The Lord Jesus has promised not to delay and I put all my faith in His perfect timing of everything for the hour is appointed and I patiently and longingly wait. I am tired tonight and my heart is heavy. It appears that people in my country 'support' Obama's decision to send more troops because they believe it is the beginning of fulfilling his campaign promise to end the war(s). You can bomb the world to pieces but you CANNOT bomb it to peace. Is there ever enough bloodshed for these monsters. Are there never enough lies for people to keep believing? I guess as long as they are able to busy themselves with their Christmas shopping and they remain virtually unaffected, the lies comfort and sustain. What a sad, sad state of affairs. My heart is indeed heavy tonight. Why do we even have 30,000 more people who are willing to go do the bidding of this evil...don't answer that.
As for me and mine, we will serve the Lord who commands "THOU SHALL NOT KILL."
...and He says those that pick up the sword, will surely die by the sword.
If only more people knew Him, really knew Him instead of through their lip service, there wouldn't be any willing to go; not one.
Thank you FF, for the link. I may write something 'very new' sometime soon on Iran, something that will affect our current analysis of what's going on in the world.
Recent? Yeah, they say a series of incidents like this have been observed..This though was heading west:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14CMieoes-A
Ali.
I hope you do write something very new and very soon about Iran, Ali. I'm looking forward to it.
I read some of the comments in your recent link and another person said they see these trains with many army trucks being moved in and around Kentucky as well. The local paper in my area has a front-page story of a new $50 million dollar base for the National Guard to be built in the next two years.
No end in sight to the madness that prevails.
FF,
I was wondering whether you can help me out with a 100 or something, I need to buy a ..., well you better watch this first then I'll tell you what ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql5DjNK1tQA
Ali.
Hey Ali, looks like it is you and me, and me and you! Don't get me wrong, I am so not complaining.
The plot thickens in this dark world. You really need to get busy and write as I need all the help connecting the dots that I can get!
I am sure you have heard about this; it is all over the internet:
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212271226.shtml
Thanks again for the smile.
Love and blessings.
An excerpt from the article in regards to Iran and their nuclear ambitions which don't really matter at all...because 'we have our timeline.' December is their deadline:
"We are not going to allow them to let the clock tick. Regardless of what they are trying to do, we have our timeline."
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=11747
God has His timeline as well.
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