Friday, February 27, 2009

Mystery Babylon Part 2

The Babylonian Imperial System

I am arguing that the story of the fall of man reveals that the "secret knowledge" of good and evil (as given by the Anunaki to the Sons of the Serpent) was how to build (example: Masons are builders, and this is their "craft") a totalitarian system of total human control, in order to rule the lives of the "uninitiated barbarians" and exist as gods on earth. I am also arguing that this explains the doctrine of orignial sin, because the fall of the Serpent Seed has affected all of us, and we have wittingly or unwittingly participated in this fall up to this very day because of the systems they have created, and forced us to live under. I will refer to this systme as the Babylonian Imperial System which has SIX (the number of man) characteristics:

1. A powerful military/police state structure .that is well financed and is given powers to enforce orders, and destroy rebels.

This is the foundational societal institution in Babylon, and is the classic sign that the Babylonian Empire has emerged. This is because this imperial system is fundamentally exploitive and as a result it will cause anger and apathy in the population, and in vassal kingdoms, which must be tightly controlled or the empire will begin to crumble. If necessary, the empire will use its highly trained and well financed military and police to destroy or kill those who dare to want change. This is what happened to Judah when Zedekiah, the puppet King of Nebuchadnezzar, rebelled. His kingdom was destroyed, his people massacred and enslaved, and the Solomonic Temple was burned to the ground. Zedekiah was then forced to watch his sons executed, then his eyes were torn out, and he was beheaded. The Babylonian Imperial System must be feared in order to keep control.

2. Hierarchical, Pyramid Control Structure.

Babylonian Imperial Systems and their supporting institutions are always based upon hierarchy, symbolized by the pyramid, or Ziggurat. This makes sense since this organizing symbol guarantees power is concentrated in the hands of a privileged few, and a large number of powerless people remain at the bottom who can easily be dominated and controlled by being forced to fight with each other for the ascending space on the pyramid. And, by using the religious symbol of a pyramid, it imparts a message of divine authority which can easily be transferred into social relationships as “the divine wants us to rule, and for the majority to be our servants.” As a result, any effective revolt against imperial power can be nullified as each person is too busy fighting his neighbor for a competitive edge, even though they will likely never rise very far above their low station. Hierarchy also links empire symbolically with Egypt; the home of the Great Pyramids, and along with Mesopotamia, the world’s first empires. It also links empire symbolically to the Exodus, God’s magnificent event of liberation for those trapped at the bottom of the pyramid, which foreshadows what may well happen in our lifetime.

3. A well financed, organized, and committed propaganda machine to sell the empire’s vision of the world to the population and other empires, and to get them all to agree freely to live their lives according to the rules dictated by the command structure.

The empire must present themselves as good, peaceful, and decent and the world they have created must be presented as natural and just. Violence works best as a threat; if it is applied in its most brutal forms in all cases, then the population will become mobilized to fight back. Empires must gain the cooperation of most citizens, and convince them to accept the kingdom/empire freely. This can only happen through manipulation, lies, and other tricks which are all called propaganda. Babylon was a considered seat of culture and architecture, Rome was thought to be an empire of justice, Egypt was considered an enlightened center of science, mathematics, and religion. Babylonian Imperial Systems need a good propaganda machine to cover up the evil that supports their existence.

4. Economic and Political Power held mostly in the hands of a small elite, with a large middle class of managers and functionaries to help oversee and organize the accumulation of further wealth for the elites (like the task masters in Egypt during the Exodus), and a much larger group of poor and outcasts who are trapped in ruin, misery, and suffering.

The suffering on the part of the lowest members of society, who comprise the largest number of people, is rationalized as a failure in the individual, their race or religion, or both as a means of scapegoating and domination, but it also serves to help the elites to alleviate their conscience, which may be convicting them based upon their plundering, dominating behavior. Kingdoms/empires seem metaphysically to have to exist in a world in which the weak are deliberately dominated, exploited, murdered and abused, and where everyone believes this is natural and appropriate. It is as if their reason for existence depends on having large numbers of powerless people to dominate, exploit, and control. This seems to argue in favor of my thesis that the powerless are God’s people, and as such are attacked as enemies.

5. Apostate Religious Authority that supports the prevailing system giving it “divine authority” by which it benefits economically/socially as a result of its support.

Apostate Religious Authority, while not as foundational as the Police State structure, is perhaps empire’s most critical institution of support because it provides a divine mandate for the hierarchical system (which Apostate Religion also uses to its advantage) and support for the following lies as expressed by the imperial system:
• That God (or the gods) has blessed and chosen the empire, and the elites who control it, to be great, powerful, and rich thus giving them a divine mandate to dominate, accumulate obscene amounts of wealth, and use violence as a means of control.
• That the middle class must work harder and be more obedient to authority in order to advance in the divine kingdom. If that happens, God (the elites) will reward them through money, status, material goods, and community recognition.
• That the poor and marginalized are being punished by God or the gods, and that, while they may suffer now, God will reward their patient endurance in the next life. In other words, it is God’s will that they suffer now, are exploited, and have no hope, so they should accept it and not complain.
• In some extreme cases, the Apostate Religious Authority is given sanction to abuse and dominate the poor in a manner similar to the empire as a reward for their fidelity to the cause. Examples include the Inquisition, the role of churches in the European conquest and colonization of the New World, the sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests and the cover-up by Ecclesiastical Authorities. In our day and age, the Apostate American Evangelical Church fully supports wars which cause harm and suffering to the poor and powerless around the world and at home. This confirms Apostate Religion as the Harlot of Revelation, drunk on the blood of the saints.

6. Attacks against true religion, and those who practice it.

In the West, agnosticism, devotion to pleasure and distraction, atheism, money and power, are presented by Hollywood and the Media as positive expressions of a clear thinking mind, while committed religious people are vilified as closed minded zealots and fanatics. Apostate Religious Authority confirms this view by presenting itself as opposed to science, debate, discussion, peace, and democracy, and interested only in the sexual and reproductive sins and temptations of the faithful. In America, it supports imperial ambitions, and is silent on its abuses. We pray for American troops, as we should, yet we do not pray for the millions slaughtered in war by America and the West. Churches punish gays but reward soldiers who murder in the name of God and Country. Mainline Apostate Churches such as the Catholic Church, or Episcopal Church, are in decline making membership seem pointless. Even if one joins a local mainline denomination, they are rarely challenged intellectually or spiritually, and simply sit in a pew every Sunday in an apathetic state of suspended animation, ensuring no real change will happen. Other denominations are more emotional, but try to use emotion and enthusiasm as a way of creating a religious ideologue who is more robot than disciple. He/she can then be easily mobilized to achieve certain political objectives which support the empire (Teri Shiaivo). As a result, true religion never emerges to challenge the heresy of Apostate Religion, or the Beast of Empire. If true religion ever does emerge as a movement for change, the leader of the movement is target for personal attacks, and if this fails, he/she is eliminated. This usually stops the movement dead in its tracks, and allows the kingdom/empire/Apostate Religion to claim the leader and movement as its own by creating memorials, or by recognizing them as a saint, which of course pacifies the vast majority of people who are victims of their already powerful propaganda machine. A great example of this is the Reverend Martin Luther King, who when he was alive was called a communist, traitor, anti-christ, was assassinated, and now that he is dead, everyone deeply connected to the American Imperial System invokes his name with reverence to make themselves seem righteous. It is the Beast of Revelation with the Mouth of a Lamb, hypocrites who destroy the righteous and then use their memory to control and dominate.

(you may refer also to this link H:\Dragon Society - Real History, Dragon Philosophy and The Importance of Royal Bloodlines.htm which details the divine right of Kings, which sheds further light on the Babylonian Imperial System)

The Babylonian Imperial System appears to have emerged in a powerful and organized way about 8000 BCE, which would make sense since this is the time period that the Sons of the Serpent first begin to spread out through the known world.

According to

"So how did this state of affairs came to be. Domination systems, dominator cultures, and hierarchical societies arose at the time of the Domestication revolution. approximately 8000 BC. According to this timeline, "The availability for the first time in human history of a dependable food supply ...made it possible to support larger societies. .... food surpluses became common.... freed some workers to do other forms of work, such as crafts leading to the division of labor. Surplus food and crafts were traded with others. (Trade) Durable goods could now be saved and some people accumulated more than others. (Accumulation of valued goods) People now had possessions worth fighting over. (Feuds and wars over possessions). Captives from battles were forced to do less appealing work. (Slavery) Some people accumulated much over time while others accumulated little. (Inequality increased). The wealthy wanted to pass their benefits on to their children. (Wealth became hereditary) Wealth and power became concentrated in the hands of a few. (Power becomes concentrated and chiefs, kings, and feudal society emerged). With the agricultural revolution 5500 BC "The invention of the plow drawn by animals made agricultural production vastly more efficient than before permitting far more land to be farmed by fewer people. This resulted in an even greater food surplus. It also freed far more people for other types of work, creating an even greater division of labor. Jared Diamond details some of the additional specifics of the process.
According to Walter Wink, since the time of Babylon (1250 BC): "The story that the rulers of domination societies told each other and their subordinates is what we today might call the Myth of Redemptive Violence. It enshrines the belief that violence saves, that war brings peace, that might makes right. It is one of the oldest continuously repeated stories in the world."

This historical situation can be confirmed in Genesis 4. Cain, a tiller of the soil murders his brother Abel, a shepherd. The Bible seems to be giving us a clue here: the emerging farming states, which become Babylonian Empires, are based upon domination of the weak. The knowledge of good and evil offered by the serpent is nothing more than the domination and murder of the weak accomplished by total insitiutional control of every aspect of human life. This process will enshrine the Serpent Seed as gods, who know and create the conditions of life and death, right and wrong, truth and falsehood. This is whay they are called the Sons of Cain, because Cain is their spiritual ancestor.


faithful forever said...

Very interesting and great insight with an extremely important messages for these days. The symbolism of the ancient gods fill our modern world and are still doing what they have always done with their Black Magik...twist, lie and deceive. Only for as long as the Lord allows and I think their time is growing shorter. Egypt can be called the cradle of religions and it is based on a flesh trinity of Horus, Isis and Seth. You can see the IHS letters in our churches everywhere and we all know about the pyramids and the all seeing eye. Just as the old empire were built on control and oppression, so it is today and is being revealed through their plans of a new world order. There is much importance based on the celebration in Egypt for the dawning of the new millenia in 1999 where millions were spent refurbishing the sphinx. It is called Black Magik because it is pure evil. These unclean birds have to be housed somewhere in this physical realm and I believe the physical land of Mystery Babylon is the US. I would love to hear your thoughts on this, or anyone's. Great post nathandave.

All four my favorite sites are showing or reporting signs of cyber attacks, and lately I don't always have access to my email which hasn't happened previously.

Has anyone heard some of the comments coming out of this CPAC meeting? The conservative extremists, which seems to be the standard - the group that bought 65 million copies of the Left Behind Series and hails the likes of Rush Limbaugh - are rearing their ugly heads with talk of taking to the streets to defeat Obama's 'socialism' and Sean Hannity inciting thoughts of a revolution. When Obama went to Canada last week, Russia flew a jet that was denied Canadian airspace (allegedly) by two F16 fighters.

When you think it can't get too much stranger, you hear that White House staff are saying that Obama called Bush before making his speech about 'ending' the war in Iraq.

It appears that an airplane in Turkey was downed by electronic impulse as was Flight 3047, and a British truth activist was found washed up on a shore recently.

What a world.

...waiting patiently and praising Him everyday for all His ways.

Keep looking up.

faithful forever said...

The rhetoric between Isarel and Iran grows ever more threatening, and look at Olmert's chilling words...he knows of their plans to annhiliate and their capabilities:

Annon, your fellowship brings great joy among the chaos. If this is only the first half of the tribulation, the second will certainly be an incredible trial. Indeed it is everywhere and there is no place to hide. How blessed are His people to already be hid under His wing. Our God is true and faithful always.

Love to all.

faithful forever said...

Guess who?!

And then we have this freak of nature speaking at CPAC: 911 was beneficial to Israel.

Now more than ever:

Isaiah 51:1-7 (King James Version)

Isaiah 51
1Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.
2Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him.
3For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.
4Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.
5My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.
6Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
7Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.

Amen, and I hearken anew everyday.

NathanDave said...

I agree FFm it is all Black Magic. I was reading somewhere that there are two basic emotions and all others are derived from these: fear and love. These birds use fear to inspire love. It will not work thankfully, but until then things will be difficult for sure.

faithful forever said...

My brother NathanDave, I greatly appreciate the research and the effort you put into this post. I am sure this was not an easy task, especially getting that close to them, but a message that needs to be heard for it is very real.

Give me love anytime everyday.

And I so agree with you...but until then things will be difficult for sure. We will witness much death and destruction, and maybe martyered (sp) ourselves, but there will also be many blessings and protection poured out on His people.

I am so blessed, as always, by your fellowship nathandave and as always, I love you my brother. Still looking forward to that wicked pizza! Keep shining; keep marching.

Love to all.

NathanDave said...

Thanks FF, I obviously feel the same. Sometimes though, it gets too much(this constant blogging and worrying about what the darkness is up to) and I need a break. I may go back to lurking again!

Wicked Pissa. I forgot about that. Uniquely Bostonian for sure!

Sandra said...


I too get down when thinking too much on the dark side. When thinking of the good and how people can change their behavior to bring about the Kingdom to this world through the teachings of our Lord helps me overcome the world and it's problems and focus on my small community and what I can do to bring about change. It will not happen at the top but at the community level. Worrying about the future and having fear attracts the evil forces. They want us to be fearful. Making a decision not to go towards the dark forces but towards the light of goodness has helped me. Focus on the truth and light of Jesus and bring about change within your family and community. That is when we have overcome this world and rejoice in the small miracles all around us. When we see the first buds of spring bursting forth after the long winter. How wonderful to see nature come alive and the colors of spring burst forth with the birds singing their praise in the morning. We know this is the birth pains of a new world.

Never believed in the hierarchy system. My uncle was a janitor and I got more through his life teachings than I ever got through any so-called leader. He was a simple man but so wise in his philosophy on life. We all know about the pyramid schemes and how the small top got rich while everyone else lost money. No different to what is going on in Corp. America.

NathanDave said...

Sandra thank you, you are right as usual. I so enjoy your perspective on things. Thank you sister.

Sandra said...


Thank you for your kind words but the only one who is right is Jesus. He set the example and we are to follow him and his teachings.

I would like to comment on this statement in your post:

"A great example of this is the Reverend Martin Luther King, who when he was alive was called a communist, traitor, anti-christ, was assassinated, and now that he is dead, everyone deeply connected to the American Imperial System invokes his name with reverence to make themselves seem righteous. It is the Beast of Revelation with the Mouth of a Lamb, hypocrites who destroy the righteous and then use their memory to control and dominate."

I have observed the very same thing. When the powers of this world destroy a leader who is able to stir the people to take action against injustices he/she is done away with and than in a few years all the ugly talk of the individual turns to admiration. It is only because he/she is no longer a threat to their world empire. We are to believe that the person was an extra ordinary individual and as an ordinary citizens we can only admire the individual but not take up the hard work of following the example set forth. It is only when we take up their life's work do we realize that all of us have the power to change our small corner of the world. Most men/women of vision don't want admiration but a call to action to right the injustices.

I just got done watching a movie called Flash of Genius. It was about an inventor who invented the intermit windshield wiper and how the big giant Ford stole the invention. It was based on a true story and chronicles his fight with the big corporation for years. In the end Ford tried to buy him off with 30 million dollars but he would not take it and won his lawsuit against the big corporation. It was not the money but his belief that the truth needed to come out and they needed to admit that they stole his invention. He was his own lawyer in the case against the mighty law firm of Ford. Money was not the issue for him but proving that they stole his invention.

You take care brother. I enjoy your perspective.

NathanDave said...


Well, I hope you don't think I was comparing you to Jesus :) LOL (big smile). I just have been feeling lately that God has been calling me to spend more time living His Word in my life, and less time worrying about what the evil ones are up to, and you said what I had been feeling so well, as you always seem to do! Thanks friend.

This is why I took a short break, and I will likely go back to lurking and reading, not because of the "supposed controversy" but for my own sanity and to follow where God is leading me. I am far from perfect, and I need to recenter myself in God in order to be of some use to Jesus.

FF, by the way, I enjoyed your post on Zion very much, and it was the launching point for me to post myself. Thank you.

NathanDave said...

This video says it all:


Sandra said...

:) You made me smile.

Following where God leads will give you peace and joy in the midst of the storm. I too need to follow the light of God's love and not be caught up in the chaos of the world. To be in the world but not of the world. Each of us has a purpose in these times and following God's will and answering his call keeps us in the light of his love.

God bless all.

Anonymous said...

This is my bank and I do not agree with this man: Stonewalling in Style: Bank of America

Anonymous said...

There is an indication that the February fires in Australia were deliberate.

I read somewhere that it is the work of the Illuminati i.e an act of human sacrifice to the god of moloch.
Anything is possible in this evil world. Strange as it may seem though Tony Blair was flying around in a private aircraft watching the fires while at the same time bushfire observation aircrafts are grounded because "it is too dangerous to fly". Really??
In time the truth comes to light.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.


NathanDave said...

Its all about energy Anon, they are trying to release enough negative energy through their rituals and false flags to allow a huge conflagration, a war to end all wars that will pave the way for their final Masonic building project, the Tower of Babel completed, what they call the New World Order. They will then place their savior, their antichrist-dajjal on the throne in Israel in the Temple, and their project will be complete. They believe that the evil spirits(who by the way they believe are misunderstood helpers of humanity, not evil at all) will then rule this planet and use it as a base of operations to storm heaven and remove God from his throne. They think Jehovah is unjust because of his judgment against their masters, the fallen angels, thowing them from heaven and trapping them on earth. That is why they are interested in star gates, vortexes, etc- they plan on having a war in the stars ( a literal star wars) and the evil spirits intend on using humanity to settle their ancient score with our God.

Sounds crazy, and honestly I cannot believe I am writing it and thinking it sometimes, but I have come to see that it is real, so real that it almost makes me wonder if I am dreaming. I sometimes think I am constantly awakening from a dream, a psychosis that has been brought into my mind which God is removing.

All that I can say is that it will not go down as they imagine it. It will be horrible for anyone who gives themselves freely to this system. The negative forces that are being unleashed are horrid and the people trapped in this system have no clue about what awaits them. They are awakening the justice of God, and this is not going to be good for them. I cannot explain what I am feeling and thinking, but I know now what the scriptures mean when they say that the demons believe in God and they tremble. They know what their human slaves do not know, that they are likely doomed. They hope that Christ will relinquish his claim upon planet earth because of their pollution and domination of it. They will not be successful. It will be a shock, a surprise, a total defeat something so horrible that we should have great compassion for anyone trapped in its cluthces, even if they are our mortal enemies, even if they hate us and want to shut us up.

Heres a short video which is part of a larger series on this topic. The producers of the video are Muslim and they are arguing that the current battle between Islam, Christianity, and Judaism is part of a larger Illuminati plot to destroy these three religions, religions which in their purest forms are mortally opposed to the demonic religions of the Serpent Seed. They are arguing that even though many of our beliefs are different, in essence we believe in the oneness of God, and that we must unite to oppose the plans of the evil forces who seek to enslave and dominate humankind for ever, for all eternity. The time is short man, real short, and we need to wake up. 2012 is coming, and they are plannning something for that date because the energy that will come from the galatic center will be intense, real powerful. Couple that with increases in the sun's activity, which will peak in 2012, we only have 3 more years to figure out how to come together, and to stop fighting each other and recognize the real enemey, and try to save as many of our brothers and sisters as possible. The time truly is shorter than we think.

Anonymous said...

Historical lecture to the American people (Part II)

PursuingTruth said...

Well written post, beautifully laid out in your drawing a picture of how the enemy has enslaved mankind.You have displayed an insight into the workings of civilization, and how the "established order" is a veil of deception

NathanDave said...

Thanks Peter, insight comes from the Lord. He has blessed me, and I am grateful.

faithful forever said...

I can so relate to this: '...but I have come to see that it is real, so real that it almost makes me wonder if I am dreaming.'

It's living in two worlds at the same time; the spiritual and the physical. That's the only way I can understand this feeling you are describing. Except the dreaming part has come to figure more as they physical realm for me; it seems so empty, but when I am wherever it is in the spiritual world or realm, that is where I belong. It's like being carried out of this world and given a taste of the feast to meet the Lord face to face. And then no words can describe, but the love and the strength and the joy is undeniable. He will sustain us.

He is revealing everything and it is amazing watching it - all the while carrying on with all the responsibilities and distractions of this world. One day those will be removed as well, and we will be free to love and worship for an eternity. Until then, I am not fearful of watching it all unfold from all sides.

The Church of the Nicolations are alive and thriving today just as they were in Jesus' days. We are not to fear anything but Him.

I hope all on the East Coast and southern parts are faring well under the winter storm - that seemed to come out of nowhere.

Interesting links on the fires in Australia, Annon. ~They~ are surely busy, and plan on getting busier, but their plans do not come to fruition.

Love and prayers.

faithful forever said...

Russia and Iran have started up a nuclear reactor and is giving Israel great cause for concern, and we are to believe that Obama, who fully supports Israel in all they do, wants to 'talk' with Iran. The stage is being set that Obama is weakening security:

I don't want to miss a thing and I am most grateful for all who gather here and share their insights, convictions and love for our Lord and Savior.

The Lord promises to shorten the time and the temporary suffering is nothing compared to the eternal glory.

Come Lord Jesus, come.

Anonymous said...


You've been immensly missed. Gald to have you again. This site is not the same without you.

I am also grateful as you are for the fellowship here. I feel it is slice of home - the home that the Master carpenter built. And we are fortunate to have a Father Who knows that the desire of our heart and the longing of our spirit is Him and ONLY Him.

Thank you for the great post. You've really opened my eyes once more. Evil has become as natural as breathing. Confusion is all over and even the best of atheists have already began to feel the "unknown". But we, glory to Him, are watching as things are unfolding and heraliding His imminent judgement.

Stay blessed and keep looking up.


I guess now is the time to play the blame game.

faithful forever said...

Annon, you bless me beyond words continually. Indeed, how fortunate we are to 'have a Father Who knows that the desire of our heart and the longing of our spirit is Him and ONLY Him.' Amen. Our slice of 'home' would not be the same without you either, my beloved brother.

Looking up right along with you.

Love to all.

Anonymous said...

The New World Order on CNN Lou Dobbs Tonight

Anonymous said...

Russian scholar says US will collapse - next year

NathanDave said...

NDE survivor Howards Storm on what the angels and God told him about the future of America.

NathanDave said...

More on this

NathanDave said...

Holy crap

faithful forever said...

Greeting with holy kisses,

Things are getting weirder and weirder, stranger and stranger, doused with propaganda and confusion reigns. It is by His grace that we can watch and not be fearful or have troubled hearts by all that we are seeing. It is a time like no other and the root of ALL evil is the love of money and this is the war being waged. An excerpt from Anonymous' Russia scholar article:

"Panarin insisted he didn’t wish for a U.S. collapse, but he predicted Russia and China would emerge from the economic turmoil stronger and said the two nations should work together, even to create a new currency to replace the U.S. dollar."

I believe this man speaks with foreknowledge of the US collapse before 2010, and this is the end war before that great and awful day of the Lord. The Bible is unfolding for completion of ALL of God's words, and He has promised us many, many good things - more than we can imagine.

The news reports that Obama sent a secret letter to Russia using the missile shield as a bargaining option for Russian influence over Iran with Obama now denying having sent such a letter. A funny green comet passes earth within 50,000 miles and the world doesn't miss a beat. Israel is condemning Gaza for the 'rocket attacks' which have few or no fatalities (and most likely the majority are launched by Israel), while it steals more land in the West Bank. No doubt the most fertile, also.

Which end is up?! It may make our heads spin occasionally, but our hearts know the way. Many are saying it is going to get worse, but some of us know that it is only going to get better. It all depends on your perspective and if your heart truly knows the way.

Jesus told the Church of Smyrna not to fear that which they were about to suffer. They loved Him because He loved them.

The Lord our God is with us.

Stay blessed and keep that oil burning so your heart does not lose its way. The road ahead is going to be tough, but it must come so it can pass. It is written and in this His people can rejoice as all His ways are perfect. Always and forever.

Great links and keep fighting the good fight no matter come what will.

Love and prayers to all.

Anonymous said...

True, money talks and your money says "good bye!".

Stay blessed and keep looking up.


faithful forever said...

No transparency - figures. Yet, they are getting more and more transparent. Geithner and Bernanke have both made statements that more money is needed on top of what was just given - I mean stolen. Indeed, the root of all evil and here we are witnessing it. The FDIC stated today that its funds are about empty which is of no great surprise, and will cause a lot of chaos when more banks close. I heard sixteen have closed this year. Yep, we are in for a rough ride and they are setting the stage for people to willingly accept their NWO. Unfortunately many will. Bernanke's double talk doesn't even help make him a good liar. They are so heartless.

Did anyone who watched the NWO on Dobb's show that Anonymous posted (thank you!, notice that Gordon Brown and Obama were dressed alike? Bush and Obama did this also.

I really enjoyed listening to Howard Storm, nathandave and thanks for sharing it. He is right - either you are serving God or you are opposing Him and there is nothing in between. Only two sides in this battle.

I enjoyed this article on the Church of Smyrna and hope someone enjoys it also. His timeless message speaks to us today and how amazing is our God.

faithful forever said...

Getting closer everyday:

faithful forever said...

Interesting and also from a NDE person; take it or leave it:

Israel has been bombing tunnels leading to Gaza and today a missile from a jet struck in Northern Gaza killing two and wounding five with strong warnings for retaliation coming from Gaza. Isarel is claiming that Iran will have nuclear power by the end of this year and that Iran is allegedly purchasing weaponry from Russia which is renewing Israel's fear of 'being wiped off the map.'

Pakistan is getting worse by the day; North and South Korea are exchanging words of war and Japan as well. The world is on fire.

My prayer is for peace and strength to all our brothers and sisters everywhere around the world.

faithful forever said...

This is what the Lord Almighty says: "Look! Disaster is spreading from nation to nation; a mighty storm is rising from the ends of the earth." Jeremiah 25:32 NIV

Georgia is reportedly revamping its army amidst rising tension with Russia. Clinton is talking of making Jerusalem the capital of the Palestinian two-state solution and you know how that unsettles the right wingers. The right wingers...should tune in to faux news occasionally to watch the hatred for us 'pacifists' including Obama who are weakening the stability of the US and the world. It is being reported that it is 'expected' that the Obama administration and the Netanyahu administration will not see eye to eye. All for staging purposes.

It is not the same with one of us missing and is definitely not the same with all of us gone!

Stay blessed and keep looking up for our redemption draweth nearer.

Love to anyone who might be there!

Sandra said...

Love to you also. Been busy with a relative who almost died. He is a motocross rider and took a bad fall. He just came home from the hospital and I am so grateful. Hopefully he will think seriously about the sport. I love him so much and don't want him to get hurt. He is such a great young person and has such a wonderful heart who loves the Lord. He knew I was praying for him and he was so grateful.

I just wanted to make a comment on what I have been thinking lately:
Jesus said, "The Kingdom of God is within you." Jesus does not call us to have a savior complex, but he calls us to realize that if we will believe on him, if we will follow his example, then we can become the open doors for God's power to flow into this world. And it is God's power that will change the world, not our own power.

God Bless All

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faithful forever said...


I am so blessed by your presence and your love, and I know you are a blessing for this young man. Special prayers for healing and full recovery, and I give thanks that he did not die. It is a very dangerous sport, but fun and exciting to participate in.

So true, my beautiful sister, that it is by God's power because we are nothing without Him. And because the Kingdom of God is within us, that is where the temple will be built. By the Master Himself. This is why we need not fear but rather know and believe that this is exactly why ~they~ desire our oppression so desperately. But they will not succeed. God who is faithful will protect His flock. The others do not have the Holy Spirit in them and therefore, have already been defeated. All glory be to God.

Keep shining Sandra. I thank our Lord and Savior for your fellowship.

Hey Annon - 'bout time! Thanks for the link; going to check it out soon. Love you and been missing you.

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Sandra said...

Thank you for your kind words. When we have overcome the world and internalized the Christ truth that we are loved by the Father and are here on the earth for a specific purpose we are set free to be of help to others. To internalize the teachings of Jesus and start putting them into practice in our community. To be a light to all we come into contact with through his truth and teachings. To let go of the ego that wants to identify with our self worth here and to attach to the greater good of bringing truth of God's love to a world caught up in the cares of the material world. To see beyond the bad news and to see that all things are happening to free us of the attachments that bind us to the old world. Ego binds you to this world and the world wants you to fear. To let go and let God work through you. The dark forces want us to fear.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. (Proverbs 23:4)

God Bless

Anonymous said...

Luke 17:20-37
The Coming of the Kingdom

20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; 21 nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’[d] For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”
22 Then He said to the disciples, “The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. 23 And they will say to you, ‘Look here!’ or ‘Look there!’[e] Do not go after them or follow them. 24 For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day. 25 But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. 26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
31 “In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back. 32 Remember Lot’s wife. 33 Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left. 35 Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left. 36 Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left.”[f]
37 And they answered and said to Him, “Where, Lord?”
So He said to them, “Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.”

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1 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?”
10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.[a] 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but[b] have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

young brother said...

Nathandave, thank you so much for writing about this topic. What's going on now could not be without a long, involved buildup throughout history. I made two comments on part 1 before moving on to part 2. Like you, and Sandra, I have felt led away from the watchtower, and down to the pasture of God's blessings. The war is still being waged, the righteous are still under attack, but that is the greatest reason for us to really become expert at using the weapons of simple love and kindness as opportunities present themselves to us.

ND, have you read the book of Enoch? In it, he states flat out that agriculture, cosmetics, tool-making, astronomy, and other facets of "civilization" were given to humanity by the fallen ones. Other ancient legends make the same exact statement. The most famous one that I can think of is the Greek legend/play, "Prometheus Bound". The Gods of Mt. Olympus are punishing the demigod, Prometheus forever because he gave humans the power to harness fire, what is commonly thought to be the first spark of civilization.

All throughout my life, I've always wondered things like: Who was the first person to put aloe on scraped or burned skin? Why did they think that was a good idea? How many people died trying to figure out which berries were edible and which were poisonous? Why did the Romans have hydraulic grain grinders and batteries, yet we think of electricity as a recent invention?

There are so many holes in conventional history, so many assumptions, so much pride in our so-called progress. To accept it and defend it without exploring it is foolish. It's better to be considered crazy while asking questions and seeking answers, instead of seeming normal and remaining controlled and ignorant. The Lord has blessed you with a great gift, thank you for using it.

FF, Annon, Sandra and everyone, I have missed you, sorry that I've downgraded to "lurker" status.

NathanDave said...

Thanks YB,

You are correct, the Prometheus myth is one of their foundational myths, the fire given to humanity is the "light of illumination" and of course, we know who the Illuminated Ones are, the Serpent Seed.

Humans were made to live simply in small communities dedicated to tending to the garden that is our beautiful earth. Schedules, governments, economies,responsibilites, hierarchy, these things are Satanic and are designed to enslave. In the New Creation, humans will not need Serpent technology, because our very desires will be at one with creation, and it will not hold back from us. Everyone, from the smallest to the greatest will express the love that the creator has for his creation in Jesus. I for one am sick of living in their Matrix, and want to see the "Promised Land." Hurry Lord, how much longer must we wait?

NathanDave said...

Never forget his protection during these perilous days

faithful forever said...

“Search me, O God, and know my heart; test me and know my anxious thoughts. See if there is any offensive way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.”- Psalm 139:23-24

The Lord our God hears our cries and knows our anguish. Rejoice and make a joyful sound unto the Lord for He will finish the good work He has began in us. We are being refined while we watch and wait and this is a great blessing. As NathanDave said, 'never forget his protection during these perilous days.' Thanks for the uplifting video my beloved brother, and I will never forget it is Wicked Pissa - not pizza! I am glad you knew what I meant.

There is an economic summit in London scheduled for April 2nd in which Obama will meet the queen beforehand. Some are speculating that this is the final forum before the planned and executed economic collapse. Obama has claimed that this crisis is a chance for 'opportunity.'

Many, many trials and hardships are underway for many people and surely there is a testing going on. I pray for more to turn to Him than from Him. He is our sustaining power and He will not abandon those who belong to Him. We are all feeling the weight of this burden as well as the blessings that accompany the veil being lifted. He will not give us more than we can bare and it is good to take rest in Him.

Great testimonies and I am thankful for the blessings that each one brings to our little community. I have missed you also my dear young brother, and understand the lurking status completely. Each has to follow our heart where He leads us.

Joshua 1:9 (King James Version)
9Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

And never forget to laugh and laugh often - enjoy:

I love you all so dearly. Thanks for the great Bible verses, Anonymous and for being here with us.

faithful forever said...

This is a documentary about the economic collaps in Argentina in 2001. If it bothers anyone to watch, please don't. We do not know what will come tomorrow, but watching is a way of preparing and if it does come to worse before the Lord stops their evil plans, maybe it will be beneficial in some way.

I for two am also sick of living in this world, but we simply must make the best of it in whatever way we can and endure to the end with love and faith fully in tact.

Love and holy kisses to all my amazing brothers and sister(s).

faithful forever said...

Oh yeah, the link might come in sorta handy:

The Lord's hand will move quickly once the appointed time arrives; in the blink of an eye with no mistaking. I love this verse and had to post it again (thanks Anonymous):

24 For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day.

Anonymous said...

The build up continues.....

Stay blessed and keep looking up.


faithful forever said...

Nobody does it quite like you, Annon. It takes all of us working together.

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

In one of the comments you wrote not to have a "Savior Complex". Here is something I found on it. Is this what you meant?

Excerpt from the article:

This Savior Complex, as the late mythologist Maggie Macary termed it, consists of a fake innocence in which those who consider themselves as Saviors ignore their own guilt and what they have done to others. They deceive themselves. This is why Bush, in all seriousness, refers to the United States being attacked for its goodness. He's completely ignoring the 50 years of attacks the United States has inflicted on the Islamic world.
When one group idealizes itself, it must necessarily demonize another group it defines as its enemy or enemies. That way, it can project all evil onto those Others. This means, and this is truly scary, that groups or countries that idealize themselves are always dwelling, in some degree, in a fantasy. Part of that fantasy is always projecting evil onto the innocent.

Sandra said...


I think your link has some truth. To the Pharisees and the Sadducees Jesus was a scapegoat. They made him out as evil when he was the savior of the world. Jesus said "Why do you see the speck in your brothers eye and not the log in your own." Jesus said to Love your enemies. To bring evil out in the light is one thing because we do need to do that. We can not condone evil and it does need to be brought out into the light. Jesus instructed us to pray for those that use us and hopefully they will come to the light. We have to be careful in going to the dark side because we can become just as they are which is "hate". We have to be of the light of Jesus and he will give us peace. It is revolutionary to turn the other cheek but there were those in history who did just that. Martin Lutheran King and Gandhi for examples. Martin Lutheran King and Gandhi staged peaceful civil non compliance with the evil of their day. In my opinion George Bush did have the savior complex and got this whole country involved in the evil of his rein.

I love your philosophy of the simple life. I believe that is what Jesus was about and Satan wants to have the hierarchy system. Live the simple life and throw off the chains that bind us to this system.

Yes I believe in the midst of the storm we do have to be able to laugh. There is so many sad things going on in the world and we need to pray on this but also enjoy our family and friends. The Lord will use us if we pray on it. Not my will Lord but your will.

Good to hear from you and as always you have such insight on the times we are living in.

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